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Hoping for some opinions as to the origins of this nominal Edgar Perks. Gun in question is an SLE with chopper lump barrels and good wood. Edgar Perks is inscribed on the rib, but not on the action, which usually denotes a trade made gun. However, there are no marks on the locks or elsewhere on the gun that suggest origins with one of the larger trade makers. There are no patent marks on the gun either. Perks himself was noted as a gunmaker in the 25-54 period during which this gun was originally proved and it still wears the original proof marks. I know many of you also saw the 20 bore Perks made that recently sold at Holt’s and ended up at a dealer immediately at double the price. I can find no marks on the locks. There are initials of the barrel-maker on the barrel ("TA"), but really nothing else. This doesn’t have a T serial number on the rib like my Holloway-made Leech. So the question is, did Perks handmake this gun? If not, who did? Not really sure why Perks would order out a gun and not put his name on it either as his name carried little weight. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/MqMFYgSh.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/p5hXF38h.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/5Zk2WOdh.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/3PkI5mdh.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/At4R5gWh.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/OUvELUVh.jpg)
Last edited by Dan S. W.; 12/11/22 05:32 PM.
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That is a nice looking gun. I had to read the maker,twice, as I thought it was like mine. I have a Thomas W. Perkes.
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Are there any marks on the barrels/rib under the forend.?
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Not much going on under the barrels: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/etkMaY5h.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/5KCVLeXh.jpg)
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Can you let us have a photo of the front of the knuckle to show how the extractor cam is attached?
I have a somewhat similar gun by W.C. Carswell Ltd of Liverpool built as far as I can tell between 1943 and 1949. Does yours have any sign of a Birmingham viewers date stamp?
Last edited by Parabola; 12/11/22 06:14 PM.
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Parabola, here you go: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/JFEOFiqh.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/wpFKgMrh.jpg)
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Same method of fitting extractor cam as mine.
Possibly same maker? Anyone know who TA was?
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Parabola, does yours have chopper lump barrels like mine does by any chance?
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Dan,
Yes it has chopper lump barrels, and is also stocked to the fences.
If yours does not have a Birmingham viewers date stamp (in abeyance 1942 to 1950) yours probably also went to Proof 1943 to 1949 possibly using a pre-war action .
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Interesting, where is the viewers date stamp located on your gun? That is normally forward of the flats between the flats and the loop, right?
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