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Does anyone have one of the Indian-made double flintlocks sold by Military Heritage, and if so how is it with barrel regulation and the locks? Thanks.
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I bought a Pedersolli flint shotgun and it was a piece of junk, barrels were heavy like a double rifle and the locks were bound up to the point one would t fall fast enough to spark and the other the trigger pull was off the gauge and I was afraid the trigger would break before you could pull. I'm looking for a decent working flint sxs to hunt with and can afford.
I'm also interested in one of these if it actually works and handles like a decent sxs
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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I have been looking for a double flint that was a shooter for five years. I know I am picky but consider the fact the flint guns are 200 years old. Many of the better ones were converted to percussion, or their barrels were used in a conversion. So if you find a good one, buy it. I don’t know how many more five years I’ll be looking for mine.
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I'd rather find one built by Wm Brockway (Bill), from Louisiana, than a vintage original. He used to be a member here but I haven't heard anything about him in years, and he last was active here in 2010. He published a book on building double m/l shotguns.
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Bill died in 2013. Never met him but did have a little contact about a ML. I honestly did nit know how smart he was on the subject at the time. He was a very accomplished person.
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Bill Brockway was a friend of mine but he died several years ago. He was artistic, highly skilled, and told great jokes.
Making a quality flintlock double would be extremely expensive. The flint lock is a most complicating undertaking. Making a pair of locks alone would be worth at least $50,000.00 for reliable, quality locks. A good quality gun would cost over $200,00.00. If Holland's or Purdey's produced such a gun, it would be exorbitant. It is much more difficult to stock a flint double than a modern double.
Recently I did some restoration on a Jack Haugh flint double and let me assure you it was equal to any British antique flint double. Haugh made pretty much everything but the barrels. I have no idea of the original price but I bet Jack didn't get near what he deserved. The gun is lovely and best quality.
I have little expectations from mass produced flint guns mainly because of the locks. The ones I have seen have the cheapest locks and they are the heart of the gun. The proper strength and balance of the springs are quite critical but few people know how to do it. I once worked on a flint gun for which Mike Ehinger made new frizzens. They were exquisite and I have never seen better, antique or modern. By the way Mike has been retired.
When I work on antique flint or percussion guns and rifles I wish I had a small winch to cock them and open the frizzens. The springs are strong. The springs on modern made guns I have handled are weak compared to the antiques.
Yes, it's very possible for a business to make a dependable flint double but I would bet the least expensive gun would cost at least $20,00.00. My advice is to find a restorable original.
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Mr. Flynn is right on with advise and the fellows he mentions. They produced incredible products. I looked for years and finally scored on a late John Manton double flinter. Such fun to shoot and as much fun to look at and admire. I think that sometimes French flintlocks can be overlooked. some beauties out there. I guess I should take mine to the pheasant opener coming up.
Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 09/29/24 06:34 PM.
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Bill Brockway was a friend of mine but he died several years ago. He was artistic, highly skilled, and told great jokes.
Making a quality flintlock double would be extremely expensive. The flint lock is a most complicating undertaking. Making a pair of locks alone would be worth at least $50,000.00 for reliable, quality locks. A good quality gun would cost over $200,00.00. If Holland's or Purdey's produced such a gun, it would be exorbitant. It is much more difficult to stock a flint double than a modern double.
Recently I did some restoration on a Jack Haugh flint double and let me assure you it was equal to any British antique flint double. Haugh made pretty much everything but the barrels. I have no idea of the original price but I bet Jack didn't get near what he deserved. The gun is lovely and best quality.
I have little expectations from mass produced flint guns mainly because of the locks. The ones I have seen have the cheapest locks and they are the heart of the gun. The proper strength and balance of the springs are quite critical but few people know how to do it. I once worked on a flint gun for which Mike Ehinger made new frizzens. They were exquisite and I have never seen better, antique or modern. By the way Mike has been retired.
When I work on antique flint or percussion guns and rifles I wish I had a small winch to cock them and open the frizzens. The springs are strong. The springs on modern made guns I have handled are weak compared to the antiques.
Yes, it's very possible for a business to make a dependable flint double but I would bet the least expensive gun would cost at least $20,00.00. My advice is to find a restorable original. What are your thoughts about Bob Roller flint and percussion locks?
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/
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Brent,
I met Bob Roller one time at Friendship, IN back in the 80's but I really don't recall seeing one of his locks. I am certain I never saw one of his flint locks.
He was the only German speaker who spoke German with more of a southern accent than I have. Nice man and enjoyable to speak with.
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Brent,
I met Bob Roller one time at Friendship, IN back in the 80's but I really don't recall seeing one of his locks. I am certain I never saw one of his flint locks.
He was the only German speaker who spoke German with more of a southern accent than I have. Nice man and enjoyable to speak with. I have both percussion and flint Roller locks. They are quite nice. I vaguely recall discussion of someone that was building double barreled muzzleloading shotguns from salvaged cartridge guns. Does that ring a bell with anyone? I do not recall if they quality was good, bad, or otherwise.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/
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