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Hey,

I have a great CD OU 28 gauge that is a family piece. My Uncle bought it back in the 70's and it got a lot of use. The gun is functional but has some serious wear internally. The goal here is to get another 50 years out of this old girl. I want my grandson to hunt with it, shoot trap and skeet. I have a great smith that is compiling a list of the part I will need to find. We are already in touch with Jack First who is making so me new springs but they aren't ready yet

My question for now is will the springs work for the 12, 20, 410 and the 28 gauge or are they all different? Plus does anyone have the schematic for the 28 gauge.

More later when I get a parts list

Thank

Tom

The leaf springs are def. dif. between the 12's & 20's and will not interchange. On the 28's, there were some 'small frame' guns made. Easiest way to tell if yours is one, is to measure the distance between the firing pin holes in the standing breech's face. It's ¾" on those guns. I wanna say that the leaf springs are interchangeable on the regular 20's, 28's and .410's but as Russ used to say, 'I could be wrong'. I honestly don't know about those small-framed guns as I've never suffered a spring failure on the one that I have. I'm going by memory here and it's been a long while since I've had to replace a spring in a 12 or 20. I bought one set ea. to have as spares many years ago and a tool to aide in doing so when they were still available after I experienced the first failure. And, FWIW, unless yours are broken, I would continue to use them until one does break. I've one 20 ga. Empire Grade Daly/Miroku that I had oversized firing pins made for, and the disc holes rebored after they had worn too oval to be fitted with std. replacement pins again. It was due to the pins dragging when opening the gun, not breakage; they do wear from rubbing against the disc holes & bottom one is the worst. That was the 3rd set; it seemed the more expedient and best way to remedy that particular wear problem. Broke an ejector on that same gun in S. America and had it welded back together and dressed and properly annealed afterwards 20+ years ago and it's still going strong, though I don't shoot it as much as I once did. Still, it has probably 6~7 K rounds through it since that repair. I'm thinking that Weisner's (sp?) may have a schematic online for those guns but again, could be wrong.

Hope that your restoration goes well for you! They are well made fun guns from that period. There are also some variations in the ejectors and grip styles utilized as they evolved.

I've posted this before. All you need to know Miroku.
www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/Miroku_O-U_shotguns.html

I just restored a 12 bore Miroku/Daly. Very well built. Better than a Browning Superposed IMO. The parts were much more finely finished and machined vs. any Superposed I’ve had on the bench. Here’s the Miroku/Daly after I refinished the metal reassembled it.


My only gripe with the factory finished gun was the color of the wood. It was gag a maggot terrible. A yellow colored wood and hard varnish type finish. Gross.
And the Japs put some kind of gold colored crap in the engraving….needles to say all of that had to go:

I'll bet bubba put the gold stuff in. They are wonderful guns for the money.

I have a 32" with selective ejectors. I agree the machining and wood to metal is phenomemal

I'm pleased to see that the Miroku article posted above mentions that Miroku made some guns for Montgomery Wards which they sold under their Western Field name. I bought one of those at a gun show. As typical of the Daly era Mirokus, it was a solid gun at a reasonable price.

I found the guy in NZ who has some springs for the Miroku. He also suggest some used parts and the possibility of making some part. I am waiting on a list of parts from my smith. I'll post the results when it is all sorted out.

https://statusguns.com/

His email is
nelson.collie@statusguns.com

Nelson Collie.
I sent him an email and got a very good response. He ain't cheap.
Tom

Bobs Target guns sell Giulini after market perazzi springs. You may wan to check them out. The said they do Miroku

Thanks I sent them and email.