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Hi John
For what it is worth, I think he did it to match the buttplate extension.
This, in my opinion, is a great example of a very early sporter possibly pre-wwi. I think Michael Petrov would have been so glad that it hadn’t been modified to take a scope. How whether or not Niedner did modify the bolt like Worthen is famous for, or that was done later, we will never know.
I hope that as Dan puts it up to his shoulder, he thinks “this is great, I’m glad I have this”.
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I would certainly be interested to know what is under that. But why it has three screws. Maybe nothing but whenever knows until one looks. Very cool stock and I love the in letting carving. It looks so much more personal than something that was machined out with a mill. It is very easy to imagine maker working with his carving tools that left those unique marks.
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Brent, there is nothing under the BP, just wood. John, There is no evidence that there was ever anything else but the extension which I would say was soldered on to the tang. I'm guessing it was just decorative, but it is neat.
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I would certainly be interested to know what is under that. But why it has three screws. Maybe nothing but whenever knows until one looks. Very cool stock and I love the in letting carving. It looks so much more personal than something that was machined out with a mill. It is very easy to imagine maker working with his carving tools that left those unique marks. FWIW, I never actually handled a Niedner or paid much attention, but I have read enough to know that a lot of people are interested. I will have to say that, while all you say is true, I was shocked by these pictures. I never realized that was part of his method. From my perspective as someone who has owned a lot of custom guns of that period, worked on them and done quite a bit of stock work, that wouldn't be my take on the workmanship of a stock maker.
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It's a Wundhammer stocked rifle rebarreled by Niedner in 1920.
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I don't believe that it was a rebarreled Wundhammer rifle, it doesn't have any Wundhammer features on the stock or metal work. The barrel channel was never reworked for the Niedner barrel
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I don't believe that it was a rebarreled Wundhammer rifle, it doesn't have any Wundhammer features on the stock or metal work. The barrel channel was never reworked for the Niedner barrel I know Shelhamer wasn't an employee of Niedner's yet, but could this be an early Shelhamer stock?
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Awhile back, I got to take some pictures of a Wundhammer that Dan owns. Michael Petrov said that Wundhammer's checkering followed the grip. Here is a picture of the checkering. While there is no swell on this rifle, I think I understand how this way of checkering might be better for checkering a pistol grip with a swell. If you blow up the pictures of the checkering on the Niedner pistol grip, you will see the differences between the two. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/OvAOhta.jpg) after posting this, I thought I should do the job right and add a blown up image of the Niedner checkering ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/A4AsD8C.jpg) pity I can't rescale them, but I hope the differences are clear
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