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What is a rough percentage to deduct from the price of an otherwise great gun, but that has a forearm with non-matching serial#?
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If it is a high grade american double, I would say quite a bit. If it is a field grade gun, then not so much. It really depends. A mismatched forend made me pass on a high grade Elsie 20 a while back, I figured, "Where would I ever find the replacement?" In my eyes the gun would never be "right". Just my opinion though...
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My former buddy Oscar called and asked if I knew anyone who had a DHE 1 frame 20 gauge ejector forend iron. I called old Bob in PA and asked him. His only question was what serial number did he need! Matching is just a matter of skill.
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If it is on a shooter, and it matches well, I do not think more than a 10% discount is needed. If it was on a very high grade or a very collectible gun then 30% seems reasonable. In fact I have bought several shooters that were mismatched and if the price was decent to begin with I did not press the issue.
I think that we obsess on this "original condition" and all "exactly factory original" too much. These are guns were made 75 plus years ago and were owned by people who put more store in the effective use than their potential to gain value. Maybe they have or had the right idea.
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I'd start looking for other things that didn't match. I can't imagine how one would assign a percentage to it.
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KY,
I agree. Seems like some actually pass on very rare guns because of small flaws. I look for reasons TO buy a gun, not reasons not to. If the gun is 1 of 50 ever made, and is in excellent condition and one that I admire, can shoot well, or fits my collection, I'll have a forearm made to historically correct detail so I can own that piece of history and restore the gun to its proper glory. It may be the only one I see in my lifetime.
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I'm going to have to disagree on KY jons 10%.. Suppose you have 2 12 bore L C Smiths, both Identical in every way, they're priced a $900 each, you want both of them. You break the guns down and find one has the wrong forend. You're saying you'll pay $900 for one that's right and $810 for the one with the wrong forend..I wouldn't and I doubt many gun buyers would... MDC
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I always take more than 10% off for cracked stocks, so your LC Smith example is not a good one to use. Is a $900.00 Smith a shooter or more of a semi-collectable gun in that price range? Shooter Smiths that I have seen have been more in the $500-600.00 range so 10% plus or minus is no big deal.
If you are buying a gun as a collector item then do not buy mismatched parts in guns. Get them whole and original or you will never be happy. A few dollars off will never make it right in your mind. If you are buying guns to use as shooters then get past the notion that they must be as they left the factory. If I was buying a used pickup truck I would not worry if the rear bumper had been replaced as long as it was the proper type with good fit and function. Now if I was buying a rare car or high priced collectors car I would be much picker.
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