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Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
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After reading a book by Charlie Waterman I went on a 15 year long quest to shoot them all over the same dog.

Damn! Now there is something worthy of doing. Did you get it done? Either way, an awesome quest. You should start a new thread on that!
No. I was 3 shy. Didn’t kill my rock ptarmigan, Mt Quail, or Snowcock over that dog.
Lots of things have changed since then, making it more expensive than I deem worth repeating.

Nah, too much drama would ensue. Not really interested in the back and forth.

I’ll be in the UK shooting Red grouse on a selection of estates starting in about 3 weeks. That’s always a treat.

True. This place can make drama out of a weather report.

Well, if you ever get to discussing it on another venue, let me know. I would love to listen in. I do not even know how many species there are, but I will start counting. Good luck with the reds.


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Loyd,
IMO

If shooting over a dog- your 410 with 1/2oz load of 7 or 7.5s will do the trick. Yes a little light in recoil and load - a good friend and a premier grouse hunter used that same load for woodcock and have killed a few grouse using those little 2.5 inch shells.

However, 3/4oz load in your 28 gauge is tuff to beat. Winchester AAs are light in recoil, along with RSTs.

Something to ponder

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I posted this on a thread on shooting in Ireland that seems to have been expunged (presumably for fear that it might re-start the Troubles).

It features Carlo Rizzini who offers on YouTube (Casa Rizzini TV) shooting holidays in Ireland but I think that this video was filmed in England.

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I have resisted comment on the “first gun”, but hope that somewhere the fellow who is giving a first gun realizes that the young person is only 12 or so. At that age, the hands are not developed enough to function with a hammer gun in most instances. I hunted quail with a young man who could not easily manage cocking the hammer when necessary. He wanted to walk along with a cocked gun, and you all can guess the problem. I started out with a Stevens 410 bolt action , clip fed, gun with a “real” safety. Got a fox, a jackrabbit, and a hawk of some sort in my first year. Later, much to my surprise, a pheasant and a mink. I think that that gun was much safer for a 12 year old to operate than a hammer gun.

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I have been shooting 28ga for about five years now because of the gun weight. With quail I shoot 3/4 oz of 7-1/2s and an ounce of fives for pheasant. I have never felt undergunned. I had an extra 410 barrel set for my 28ga but those barrels weighed an ounce more than the 28s, the ammo is more expensive, and doesn’t perform as well as 28ga. So I sold the 410 barrels and bought a Bennelli Ethos 28 ga as a bad weather/ high volume gun. Over my good dog that’s all I need.

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