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Hello All,

Can anyone comment on these barrel flats?

Was the shotgun made on October 1928?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

JC

JayCee
There is a "ding" on it, but if that is a zero you read the date correctly. The dates on these Suhl proofed guns in not the date of manufacture, but the date of proof. It is normally pretty close but can a good bit of time later. Zella Mehilis proofed guns are usually stamped with the ledger number underneath the date and shows which one in that month it was.
Mike

This Greifelt 16/70 SxS, made for the Swiss trade (presently being auctioned via eGun), indeed looks almost too good and too spiffy to be true. But this is possibly also due to the excellent photo artist (Dieter Ockert). Choke might be misrepresented.

I admit I have been pressing my nose on the screen, and been longing for it too, at least a bit... have not been making a bid yet.

Carcano

Yeah, could be a Greif but they fancied Superimposed over Juxtaposed. I would like to see a foto of the area forward of the flats. There looks to be Gebhard Helmuthhauser / Gebhard Helmuthäuser or Gebhard Helmuthäuser or Hänel's H under the steel stamp type, which I cannot read. Plus there are a few other marks just above the Preliminary Barrel Proof.



Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

And in the given auction, it even *IS* a Greifelt, beyond the mere realm of possibility, because its lower receiver side bears the oval escutcheon with the striding griffin and the word "Greif" as trademark of Greifelt. :-D

I don't doubt it @ all. But I just haven't seen the full regiment of marks. From what I see, there really isn't anything on the tubeset that points to Greif; therefore, they may have sourced it in the white from Hänel or similar??


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Anyway, that small »F« in the upper corner of the right flats, I have seen prior. Just can't recall what it denotes. But I would hazard a guess that there are some Belgian stamps on the tubes forward of the flats.

Too, I seem to recall that the H to which I referred, whether present or not here, disappeared in the mid to late 1920s??




Note Auguste Francotte was involved. More than likely the link for sourcing.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse