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Looking to maybe buy a Parker soon. Are Remington Parkers worth less than the original ones? I have been looking at DHE or maybe a GHE in a 20, but I've seen some nice 12 's as well.
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It is a highly personal thing. Some guys prefer the Remington Parkers made in Ilion from about 1935-1941, while others prefer the earlier Meriden made Parker Brothers guns. I see no real difference in price between the two groups--condition, grade, and bore being the three most significant value determinants. A lot of guys even prefer the Parker Reproductions, which are now selling for almost as much or more than the original Ilion and Meriden made guns in Grade 3 (D). The earlier Meriden Parkers, before 1900, did not have ejectors, so a gun from the decade of the 1890s would not be a DHE or GHE model, only a DH or GH. While the Bluebook used to put quite a premium on ejector guns (I have not used the Bluebook in 15 years) I and others feel that ejectors are not that much of a value addition. I have two ejector guns currently, a VHE and a PHE, but I bought the guns for around the same price as a non-ejector gun. Enjoy the hunt, and remember, buy the gun not the name.
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The Parker Parkers were bone charcoal case colored, while the Remington and Repro Parkers were cyanide colored. Any 12 on a 1-frame or a 16 on a 0-frame is a sweet handling gun, and I think (not sure) those would be easier to find on the earlier guns.
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a parker is more gun for the money...
usually about a pound more...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I have Parker hammerless doubles from 1889 to 1941. If I had life to live over I'd concentrate on the later guns with the 1910 bolt and bolt plate and the coil top-lever spring -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Fwvyv6f.jpg) Probably best to concentrate on the Remington guns where the 16- & 20-gauges were chambered for 2 3/4-inch shells and the 28-gauges for the 2 7/8-inch shell and had the late Remington chrome-moly steel barrels. Also, the Remington guns had much nicer American Walnut stocks on the VH/VHE and GH/GHE than the Meriden guns. A 1930 V quality 20-gauge stock -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/X8zXsyw.jpg) this gun has the 2 3/8-inch chambers intended for 2 1/2-inch shells. A 1939 V quality 20-gauge stock -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/tfdtGWI.jpg)
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Some guys prefer the Remington Parkers made in Ilion from about 1935-1941, while others prefer ... Production stayed in Meriden from the 1934 Remington/DuPont take over through 1937. By 1938 they moved production to Ilion.
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I like the Remington Parkers with "Parker" in nice block letter across the bottom of the frame. I have s.n. 237xxx, a 1939 VHE that is one of the nicest examples I've ever owned that easily has D grade wood. 30" M&F, 1 1/2 frame, single trigger, original Hawkins pad with about 85-90% case colors and near 100% blue, a real peach.
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The Parker Parkers were bone charcoal case colored, while the Remington and Repro Parkers were cyanide colored... snip... Are you sure about that? My understanding is that Remington Parkers used the bone & charcoal method during their years of production, never cyanide. It was only after production ceased that Remington used the cyanide process to REFINISH guns. The Parkers you see out there that are cyanide colored are refinished guns. I do not believe Parker Reproductions ever reported exactly what their process was for case coloring, some have speculated with uncertainty. If you've got some data to refute this, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think that is correct. Can't confirm right now because my Parker books are 100 miles away. PGCA website is down or nonexistent. Delgrego's website seems to be gone, too. Maybe Researcher can chime in here.
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