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Reilly SN 35216 (chart dates it to 1900). 30" Damascus hammer gun. Estimate: £300 - 400. Gun looks go have been redone but appears to be a bargain.
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Pretty gun.

What English Doubles are going for in a lot of cases is almost a crime.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
Pretty gun.

What English Doubles are going for in a lot of cases is almost a crime.

No, it's the free market at work.


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Let’s break this down.

Say you win at the high estimate of 400 + 25% buyers premium = 500 + 300(?) export fees, insurance = 800 sterling pounds. Currency exchange brings it to $1100. Customs broker fees $300(?) = $1400 + $20 for import stamp = $1420. Then if you’re paying an importer to bring it in there fee lets be modest at $300. Total on a 400 sterling pound gun is now roughly $1700 delivered yo your FFL.

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Actually I just did this. Bought a gun for £400 at Holt's. Total cost for hammer price, auction premiums, shipping, insurance, etc. came to $1,294.81. It should have been $75 cheaper since I picked it up at the importer. And I don't believe this gun has a case so that would be £45 cheaper.
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The gun I bought was 1857 so the cost for shipping was £260 for the first gun. A post 1898 gun requiring a license would be £350.00. (Since the only dating of Reilly guns comes from my history, the auction house might fudge the date by a couple of years back to 1898.. .close enough for government work.)

Complete costs were posted on the above line. I'm just wondering if a 16 ga hammer gun in this condition with 30" barrels could be bought for this price in the USA. Gene

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Why refer to a 16 gauge shotgun as a “16 bore” in the U S of A? Does it feel good to do so? Being a misnomer on actual bore size, what’s the point? Just because the Brits use the term and you can appear as an Anglophile? Not judging, just asking…
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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
Pretty gun.

What English Doubles are going for in a lot of cases is almost a crime.

No, it's the free market at work.

I would counter with, tariffs are anything but free market.


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Tariffs don’t matter in this case. Gene wouldn’t have paid £400 for that gun, circa 2001. It would have been much more. The demand, today, is not what it was.

The world is changing. It has changed before, and it will change again. Tariffs have not caused the sky to fall.


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The market prices goods based upon supply and demand. When supply is low and demand is high, prices go up. When demand is low and supply is high, prices go down. That is the current situation with English shotguns now. Plain and simple.

Tariiffs have now added fuel to the lack of demand, so the actual asking prices of the guns (before tariffs) will go lower until the total price meets the demand. Then, they will sell. People wanting to import an English gun for themselves know what total price they're willing to pay. If the temporary tariffs now in place put the gun above that buyer's range it will not sell, until the seller adjusts his asking price to accommodate the tariff. Or, decides to just sit on it until the tariffs are gone.The one getting "hurt" is the English seller. But, maybe that's more a result of allowing their government to legislate their guns out of existence than a fault of tariffs.

I wasn't trying to make a political statement, Steven.


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My statement had much more to do with business than politics, Stanton(are we really getting that formal around here? smile )

As someone who engages in international firearms sales and importation, I will say you are off base on who is hurt by tariffs, it is the consumer. I write those checks and so do my clients, they are painful and not for the overseas seller.


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