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Re: pressure rating for 1220 12 ga ammo liverwort #670280 01/21/26 07:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,713 Likes: 682 Iowa BrentD, Prof Sidelock
BrentD, Prof Sidelock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,713 Likes: 682 Iowa	Originally Posted by liverwort If you need low-pressure shells for something, it might be best to get into reloading for it, and it might be best if it is a 12-gauge. Damascus guns if safe, would remain safe with black powder loads, fluid steel 12 gauge can be loaded low pressure with modern components. I have found that trying to load low-pressure for 20 and 16-gauge cartridges to be frustrating. 12-gauge brass shells are available for purchase and hand-loaded without machinery. I haven't done it, but there are articles online about it. Have you looked at Hodgdon's Long Shot powder? I believe I used it for some low pressure loaxds in a sixteen gauge damascus Evans hammer gun. It is readily available.

Re: pressure rating for 1220 12 ga ammo BrentD, Prof #670283 01/21/26 08:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 424 Likes: 85 PA USA liverwort Sidelock
liverwort Sidelock Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 424 Likes: 85 PA USA	I got out of the 16-gauge low-pressure reloading altogether. I belonged to the 16 gauge group and found the data immense but mostly unusable. The load I ended up with used Herco powder and seemed ineffective for pheasants. It may have worked for grouse and woodcock, but my gun was choked full and fuller. My 20s will handle anything. My remaining low-pressure gun is a short-chambered 12-gauge, and I have a good load that's easy. Hodgedons Clays.
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Re: pressure rating for 1220 12 ga ammo liverwort #670285 01/21/26 08:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,713 Likes: 682 Iowa BrentD, Prof Sidelock
BrentD, Prof Sidelock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,713 Likes: 682 Iowa	Originally Posted by liverwort I got out of the 16-gauge low-pressure reloading altogether. I belonged to the 16 gauge group and found the data immense but mostly unusable. The load I ended up with used Herco powder and seemed ineffective for pheasants. It may have worked for grouse and woodcock, but my gun was choked full and fuller. My 20s will handle anything. My remaining low-pressure gun is a short-chambered 12-gauge, and I have a good load that's easy. Hodgedons Clays. I, also, did not find that big dataset to be the panacea I had expected. I think I got my Longshot loads from Hodgdon's site. They did work very well on wild pheasants over goldens. But I have moved on from 16s. The 12s are so much better for everything, there is no reason for smaller gauges, though the .410 reaches out at me every so often. Last edited by BrentD, Prof; 01/21/26 08:45 PM.
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Re: pressure rating for 1220 12 ga ammo Little Creek #670292 01/22/26 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,239 Likes: 2013 somwers in Jawja Stanton Hillis Sidelock
Stanton Hillis Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,239 Likes: 2013 somwers in Jawja	Enjoying a 16 has never been about it being "better", for me. It's been about it being enjoyable. Owning and using .410s is the same. How could they possibly be better? Unless, they are just more enjoyable. Enjoyable and better don't have to be synonymous. May God bless America and those who defend her.

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