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Chantry, I can see that you have me on "IGNORE", so you probably won't be able to read what I say. BUT- I'm thinking, No offense- but you didn't really pick very good guns to shoot serious trap. With those two guns you should probably just be shooting trap (especially) for "funsies". Maybe okay for skeet with the side by side- I don't know much about those two guns. But for trap- eeehhhh. But good luck and have fun!!

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Originally Posted by greener4me
Is the Greener GP one of the real Greener trap guns or is it a standard GP that you use for trap.?
What load are you using in it? .... ?fps and weight.
And have you had your shooting style with the gun checked by an instructor?

One of the old Greener GP trap guns from the 1950's, 1 oz of 7.5 @1150 - 1200. No to the instructor, but several experienced shooters have watched and they aren't seeing anything obvious as to why I am missing*. The few birds I do hit are mostly straight away with minimal climb. We are shooting wobble trap from the skeet pads.

* Give the patterning and the DAC & DAH I think it is mostly the fit. I may try again today, the last time I shot the LOP was 15" with the slip on pad, which is really too long for me. I took two of the foam rubber spacers out to get back to 14" LOP.


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Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Chantry, I can see that you have me on "IGNORE", so you probably won't be able to read what I say. BUT- I'm thinking, No offense- but you didn't really pick very good guns to shoot serious trap. With those two guns you should probably just be shooting trap (especially) for "funsies". Maybe okay for skeet with the side by side- I don't know much about those two guns. But for trap- eeehhhh. But good luck and have fun!!

I only use the Greener GP for shooting wobble trap from the skeet pads. The Mears I use for sometimes for skeet. I'm not interested in being a "serious" trap or skeet shooter, but hitting less than 10 birds in a round isn't fun. (My average is about 18 or 19 and I'm having fun)

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Was planning on typing a lengthy post on the many methods of moving point of impact on a shotgun, but decided differently.

The best advice I could ever give concerning this is to buy a copy of Stock Fitter's Bible by Rollin Oswald. It is truly a wealth of information about the subject.

I wouldn't be without my copy.

Best, SRH


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Originally Posted by Chantry
[quote=greener4me]Is the Greener GP one of the real Greener trap guns or is it a standard GP that you use for trap.?
What load are you using in it? .... ?fps and weight.
And have you had your shooting style with the gun checked by an instructor?

One of the old Greener GP trap guns from the 1950's, 1 oz of 7.5 @1150 - 1200.

It may well be informative to use a heavier or faster load to re-assess the point of impact. I think that the 1oz load may be contributing to the low POI.

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It was nice to read Geoff’s post about his having been able to buy back that Thomas Wild hammer gun.

I have a little list of guns that I wish that I had never sold, in particular a Damascus 20 bore E.M. Reilly early A.&D. later converted to ejector by Edwinson Green and a Patstone hammer 12 bore.

I check the U.K. auction sites, but they have probably gone abroad where they will be more likely to get better use.

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Originally Posted by Parabola
It was nice to read Geoff’s post about his having been able to buy back that Thomas Wild hammer gun.

I have a little list of guns that I wish that I had never sold, in particular a Damascus 20 bore E.M. Reilly early A.&D. later converted to ejector by Edwinson Green and a Patstone hammer 12 bore.

I check the U.K. auction sites, but they have probably gone abroad where they will be more likely to get better use.

The only other gun I regret letting go of was a 1931 Superposed with a 4-digit serial number. 30", 7 lbs., Twin-Single triggers, Non-Crossfire vent rib...

It'll be nice to have the Wild back; it should be here Tuesday - Wednesday.

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Originally Posted by Chantry
I patterned the Greener single barrel trap gun and at about 15 yards the main charge of bird shot was 4"-5" was low at 4:30. If I'm visualizing it properly I would have to hold 4"-5" at 10:30, pretty much obscuring the bird.

That's a lot at 30 yards. Adjusting gun fit to correct that would have you looking crooked down the barrel. Is the barrel bent?

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That is what I was wondering when he said that.

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I patterned the Greener single barrel trap gun and at about 15 yards the main charge of bird shot was 4"-5" was low at 4:30. If I'm visualizing it properly I would have to hold 4"-5" at 10:30, pretty much obscuring the bird.

That's a lot at 30 yards. Adjusting gun fit to correct that would have you looking crooked down the barrel. Is the barrel bent?

It was at 15 yards not 30 and the barrel doesn't appear to be bent. When I took the pad off and shot it Saturday I did better. I plan on patterning both guns of sand bags today to see how much of it is me (mentally), how much is fit and how much is the gun.

I would like to keep and shot both guns better, but I'm not so attached to them that I will keep them otherwise. I have other guns I like and shoot much better.


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