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All of the little that I've read by Yardley has been excellent, from gun fit to advanced shooting techniques.

One other thing that doesn't get mentioned, except perhaps around here, is that high volume shooting of a big 7 1/2 - 8 lb 12g with full 1 1/8 oz WallyWorld ammo often can be detrimental to learning correctly for hunting or at all. Same is true of a little 6 lb, hard butt, 20g. Some of you may balk, but a nice gas auto with a recoil pad in 20g is a nice gun to learn on IMO. I have a Beretta 391 Technys 20g that is around 7lbs and has a recoil reducer in the butt (factory) along with a gel pad. I can hardly feel the recoil.

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Thanks to all of you who have responded. I will yalk with him and encourage him along these lines. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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Late entry offered FWIW.
Prior to spending serious coin on a shooting lesson/instructor before the shooter can appreciate what he is being taught, consider some VHS viewing.
Beg, borrow or buy the VHS "Wingshooting" by Jack Mitchell and Michael McIntosh. The late Jack Mitchell's plain English "Cathy, I want you to do this' type of instruction is the best you'll see anywhere. I like the way Mitchell and MM compliment and play off each other. This is "THE" VHS you want.
A second recommended VHS is a two tape set - "The Art of Shooting Flying" by Bryan Bilinski and Tom Huggler. Not as engaging as the "Mitchell/McIntosh and lady student shooter" VHS, and a bit repetitive, but it covers all the bases.
Bilinski is "Fieldsport Michigan" and has his act together.
I think if your new shooter sees what "the final product" should look like on the home screen, it will make his later "hands on' instruction more meaningful and effective.

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By your discription of the way he holds the gun and how the stock touches his shoulder, I would say the stock is to short and by standing erect and not leaning into the gun he is sparing his nose from the thumb knuckle? I'll bet he is tall too?

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Ken Davies 'The Better Shot' is recommended reading.
Holland & Holland 'The Art of Gameshooting' video and DVD.
John Brindles book or anything from Jack will guide you correctly.
But if any of you have stance, style or shooting problems you could do yourself a power of good here, http://www.shootinginstructors.co.uk

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I have people point the gun almost straight up and then bring it down level maintaing the same upper body position. It will teach them what the position feels like.

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Actually, he is about 5'9", 140 lbs.

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Yeah, but is the stock too short? Does he have long arms and a long neck? I'm 5'8", so he's taller than me! I weigh 162lbs. How long is the stock? I use a short stock 14" LOP for trap and 13&3/4" for hunting, but if I put the toe high on my shoulder I couldn't even see the rib? I think the advice given is good- you better buy a book.

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