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Looks like a 409. The 410 had a pigeon on the lever. The 409 had an articulated trigger and a 3rd bite, extractors.
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If this question isn't resolved by Sunday, I can try to post pics of a confirmed 425, with the original Italian proof papers (if I can find them).
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I think the 410 had "titania" steel barrels and the 409 "ausonia" steel I have seen 409 stamped on the forend timber but never on a 410
accorcing to Wilson the 409-410 series stopped by about 1964 looks like your gun was made in 1968 so my guess is it is a 425 does it have "High Strength Chromium Molybdenum steel" marked barrels?
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If the marks are XX1V it is a 1968 gun.
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does it have "High Strength Chromium Molybdenum steel" marked barrels? Yes, the barrels are marked exactly that.
Keep your stick on the ice.
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It is not a GR2 or GR3 (I have a GR3). The articulated trigger, coin finish, engraving pattern, POW/splinter, sling swivels, and lack of a crossbolt mark it as a 425, probably for the European market (I also have a 425). The wood is generally interchangeable among the GR2-GR3-425-426 guns. Please look at the gentlemen's picture again, as it does have a crossbolt, as clearly you can see the extention on the barrels. The cross bolt on the GR2's are internal and DO NOT protrude from the receiver. Your 424,425,426 do not have this third bite. Also my 424 in 20 gauge does not have a crossbolt, nor does it have a splinter foreend. It has a semi beavertail. And the 424-426's were made after 1977. His date code is 1968. Bob
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Mike, I saw the proof date late last night. I pulled my 1968 Garcia Beretta catalog this morning. The gun is a GR-2. The 424 series did not have the rib extension. Here is the list of proof dates:  Bobp, If you are working off American catalogs, then perhaps you are correct about the dating. However, Beretta does not release all models in all markets at the same time. Please look at my above post from a 1972 Italian sporting goods catalog. Today Beretta has a sxs slug gun in Europe that they refuse to bring into the US. Pete
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Agree with Pete. Too early for the 424 series; date places it in the GR era. Might well be a gun brought back from Europe rather than a "standard" import, which is why it doesn't look exactly like GR's many of us have seen.
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Pete,
Yes, I was working off American market catalogs to get the dates, so you may well be correct.
Thanks,
Bob
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Bobp,
Beretta can make you crazy if you rely on the catalogs. They issue a different catalog for each market. At least they have since around WWII. Before that the only catalogs I can find are in Italian. I have a couple of European catalogs that are tri-lingual; English, German and Italian.
They will also ignore the date code and stamp the actual date on the gun occasionally. They have a code for choke, which again they will ignore when they choose.
Since this one has sling swivels, I believe Larry is correct. It was never meant for the American market.
Again, it is a nice gun.
Pete
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