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HLJ,
Didn't YOU know that most Turks are now on benefit in the UK and Turkey is full of Brits on holiday.
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Were any "best guns" built in Edinburgh?
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The late Geoffrey Boothroyd had a high regard for Dickson.
Certainly the aesthetics are exceptional.
But how do you really define a 'Best' gun?
We talk of Purdey, H&H, Boss as being 'best' indeed Boss pride themselves as being makers of 'Best' guns only.Bearing in mind their latest offering is made in Birmingham by 'outworkers' where is the defining line?
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The late Geoffrey Boothroyd had a high regard for Dickson.
Certainly the aesthetics are exceptional.
But how do you really define a 'Best' gun?
We talk of Purdey, H&H, Boss as being 'best' indeed Boss pride themselves as being makers of 'Best' guns only.Bearing in mind their latest offering is made in Birmingham by 'outworkers' where is the defining line?
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The late Geoffrey Boothroyd had a high regard for Dickson.
Certainly the aesthetics are exceptional.
But how do you really define a 'Best' gun?
We talk of Purdey, H&H, Boss as being 'best' indeed Boss pride themselves as being makers of 'Best' guns only.Bearing in mind their latest offering is made in Birmingham by 'outworkers' where is the defining line?
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I can't find the actual post now but an English maker is starting to have an OU made in Italy for them with their name on it, and to a design that was their's many decades ago. This is so that they can now offer a basic $20K gun to their customers to help fill out their line of current $80K+ offerings.
It could be possible to even have the best quality guns completely made for the current great English makes by suppliers outside of Northern Europe altogether. With the correct combination of specifications, close working relationships, honest information sharing, quality control, etc. etc. there is no reason to believe that a fine maker in Italy or Spain coulln't make best guns for their English partners.
If this ever were to possibly occur, how might it effect everyone's perceptions and acceptability down the road? It seems agreed that "it's the gun not the brand", and while Birmingham is acceptable to be the manufacturing location for many of the English guns,if the quality was just as good, would Italy, Spain or even Turkey be just as acceptable? I am not speaking about sourced components within this question, but the possibility of completely finished builds for English brands.
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Courtesy of dt/cc Is that CC leaving England ?
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"My ordinance was as follows; 3 double-barrel rifles, by Purdey, William Moore and Dickson of Edinburgh - the latter a two-grooved, the most perfect and useful rifle I ever had the pleasure of using"
He, R. Gordon-Cumming writes circa 1850 concerning his hunting adventures in Africa in 1843, had a high opinion of the Dickson also, but I believe, rather strongly I might add, that his opinion holds far more weight!!!!!!!
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