Cherry Bombed, the problem how I see it is that most S x S enthusiasts simply don't want heavy guns. Other than the trap and duck hunting bunch when do you ever hear someone say let me see that nice heavy S x S over there in the rack? You don't. People want to do more hunting with less gun and have for the last 100 years. Obviously you prefer a little more weight and I'm sure that they are more that feel the same as you do but I feel that the majority (looking at how the English guns have evolved) like to do more with less.