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Need some help on this gun. Serial number 1187E, 28" steel barrels, 16 ga. with ejectors. Ejectors don't work.
In reading what I could find, the Hercules line was dropped in 1936 and that they were made here and in Canada by Cooey.
Condition is less than 40%, barrels show no pitting on the inside or outside just a light coat of rust. Barrels have a raised 1/4" wide rib. Receiver finish is gone, I believe it should have been case colored. Receiver looks to have a dog on the left side, didn't notice the right side.
Wood finish is gone, checkering is good on stock and forend. no cracks on either.
Tried snap caps and that is when I saw the ejectors didn't work, they don't extract either. The ejector stems in the barrel moves freely, so I believe the problem lies in the forend.
On the outside of the forend there are two small screws close to the metal that are on an anle to each other. Is this something to do with the ejectors?
I'm assuming the chambers are 2 9/16".
Gun closes tight, if you close it gently it is loose, but if you push the lever close to the center it is tight, or close it hard. Forend doesn't fit snug to the barrels, and I'm wondering if it has to do with the ejectors. It has the lift lever that releases the forend, is this a Deeley type forend release?
I can get this gun for under $100.00. What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
David
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Buy, buy, buy. What gun can you get for $100.00, that can shoot safely, that is not a steal these days?
Fore-end not fitting well would get my first attention. I find that many guns that have problems seem to do much better after a decent cleaning. Hard for anything to work with 75 years of grime, dirt and crude in the works. Clean it up and go from there.
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I must say the last 12ga 30" or 32" I have seen was in excellent original condition with cc of about 85%. Dude wanted cool $1100. It didn't look any worse than my Sterlingworth ejector. A bit more of a box, but a nice fowler none the less. 
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I seem to remember early versions were case colored, later, blued. They were cataloged until about 1947, don't know how many were built past WWII.
A Hercules is a nice gun. I bet it's worth more than a Franklin for parts. But, if it were all there, I'd buy it, clean it, and re-appraise what I had.
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If you don't buy it, I suspect Tinker will. See his new post on the ForSale/WTB section, looking for an inexpensive 16 SxS, even if it needs work.
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This sounds like a good deal. You should be able to get the ejectors/extractors fixed.
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I've bought a few guns that approximate what you describe, and I've passed on some too. I only regret the ones I passed on, and bet you would too. Heck, you're talking about the price of a gas fill-up for your pick-up.
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