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SJones - I'll have to take kind exception based on empircal evidence.
I have three Parker Repros, all straight gripped, one with double triggers and a pair with singles. LOPs are within an eighth of an inch. With the DT gun the hand is substantially rearward due to the distance from the front trigger to the back end of the trigger guard. The double gun puts the right thumb right under the nose, whereas the single trigger guns allow the hand to be moved most of an inch farther forward are comfortable and easy to shoot,
Length of pull is primarily about getting the hand out of one's face. A hard number length-of-pull does not necesarily guarantee this. Both grip and trigger configuration need to be rolled into the equation.
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The 12 gauge side-bys I shoot often for: barn pigeons, fezzants and waterfowl both have DT- the Fox HE has a half-grip- the older Trojan had a std. grip- I sold it to a hunting buddy and bought a VH 12 sn 225318 (1920's Meriden gun)1and 1/2 frame size!! I studied the Holland and Holland videos- learned their mount and re-mount between each shot- foot position, instructor was a Ken Davies I believe- so if I "dis-mount" the shotgun to track a second bird, re-mount and then shoot, I don't even know my hand has moved back to the rearmost trigger- The older Trojan had more "downpitch" from the 30" barrels - when stacked against a 90 degree plumb door jamb-that does the VH Parker- and I like a shotgun that patterns just above the aim-point of the muzzles-A very good gunsmith told me it was easier for him to adjust trigger pulls on a double with two triggers-also said the old pre-War Browning Superposed with the "twin-single triggers" had more parts that a fine Swiss watch--
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My preference for double vs SS triggers is based on something not mentioned by anyone yet in this thread. When shooting in warmer weather, with no glove on trigger hand, I much prefer double triggers because of ease of instant selection and much faster front-back trigger paired shots. However, when hunting with heavy gloves on both hands, I prefer SSTs because of the additional room in trigger guard, especially for back trigger.
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Excellent point- always wondered why my "altered Fox" HE had the original full PG re-shaped and a bigger trigger guard bow re-fitted to the now half-grip-Now I see the light in the end of the tunnel- it has two triggers, the bigger bow gives you more room if you wear gloves while waterfowling- makes sense-and so does your choice of a SST on a double for that endeavor-Great answer- thanks!! RWTF
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Is the RBL ST mechanical or inertia?
A Springer Spaniel, a 6# double and a fair day to hunt.
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More directly to the question asked as the topic; I have both a single as well as a double trigger RBL. They both were specified with the same length of pull (though I have not measured them.) They also both have straight grips. The front trigger length of pull of the double-trigger model is most definetly longer than the single trigger version.
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Not owning a side-by with a single trigger (and not a O/U man-where most have a single trigger) what is the difference- and are all single triggers selective- as the in trigger button on the M21- or do some always fire one barrel first? What was the reputation for single trigger reliability on the older doubles in the WW1 era?? Just curious!!RWTF
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My two cents worth! I have a 14 3/4" LOP 20 RBL with SST which is a little long for me when i wear a thick shirt or coat, fine with thin shirt on. I ordered a 28 RBL double trigger 14 3/4" lop and if it's lop is 14 3/4" to front trigger then the overall length of the stock will be at least 3/4" to an inch shorter and the 14 3/" 28 double trigger RBL will fit me better. Bobby
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It seems MIKE THE BEAR and I agree! And he's got the RBLs to prove it! While I do not own RBLs I own guns with both double and single triggers. Specifically, I have a double trigger gun with a 14" LOP, by the method of measurement, and a single trigger gun with a 14" LOP measure from trigger to butt and because the single trigger is farther back under the receiver than the front trigger of the first gun I find that while the measured LOPs are the same the single trigger stock is about 7/8" too long for me. This is an anomalistic abnormality or something? Anyway it really had me confused on LOP and where I should saw the dang single trigger stock to the point that it's still sitting there! Not to even bring PITCH into the equation.
Then I was told that double trigger guns are to be a little bit longer in LOP than single trigger guns and found that to be true! Helps the finger move more easily about.
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