Brother David actually OWNS 2 guns, a Remington 870 and a Winchester Model 70 in .375 (Pre 64). He has more than that, most of them mine. Perhaps, Steve, between the 2 of us, we can hogtie him and get a couple back? Seeya, Its been raining here all day, so far over 3 inches, finally cooled off. Yes it likes all grouse...