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Hi all, does anyone know what years that W. Evans engraved "From Purdeys" on his guns?
Thanks all!!
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A good question. I can say that he set up in business on his own in 1883 and was making guns as William Evans from Purdeys at that time. He only worked for Purdeys for a short time prior to 1871 and then only in the shop sales part, not in any respect with gunmaking. He then went on to work for Hollands until he set up on his own. Working for Hollands for longer than he did for Purdeys I wonder why he didn't mark his guns Willian Evans from Holland & Holland. Purdeys never seemed to contest it and indeed Purdey had signed some of his guns as being 'From Mantons'. I suppose they couldn't say much as it was not a lie as such. I have found a 1923 advert for Evans' guns but no mention of Purdeys by this stage. More digging required but that narrows it down to a 40 year period. I have quite a few old William Evans cartridges so will have a look at those to see if there is a Purdey mention. Until then I'm sure someone will have the answer but that's the best I can do with a quick look. Lagopus.....
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My William Evans SLE #2, made in 1897, has "From Purdeys" on the rib.
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I believe Purdey's sued Mr. Evans over the inclusion of their name and either lost of withdrew based on Purdey's former inclusion of Manton's name.
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By the same token, one of the boys from Purdey's, Frederick Beesley was not.
How about Henry Atkin?
Could be the Beesley action of 1880 that kept Purdey top-drawer to this day!
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A friend has a Evans From Pureys built in 1900. The engraveing on it is very nice scroll.
Regards, Gordon
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I have an Evans 1907 box lock that has "From Purdey's" on the rib.
Regards - Ian Forrester
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Might have to go to the ones who might know http://www.williamevans.com/ Lagopus.....
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Quite a few of the "from Purdey's" crowd suffered unsuccessful (given JP's own "from Manton's") legal action from Purdeys; was it Beesley or Atkin they didn't chase, given that one gave them the self-opening SLE, and the other was JP's first apprentice?
I have seen a damascus barrelled Atkin dated 1918 with the same "from Purdeys" on it.
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