I can not believe that a post that starts out so innocently can turn in to what this one has. Does it really make a difference if you use your real name or a handle. Been retired for 20 years, got in to computers right after that, first outdoor net I joined everyone used a nick name and it just went on from there. And I am not ashamed of it nor proud of it, just the way it is. John P. Holmes PS: And I don't bring any expertise to this group. I've had a lot of questions answered and I thank all for that.