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DT,
If the 25-06 is a tack driver that can be used at extreme range and lower muzzleblast/recoil is a desire, possibly the next bridge could be a .22 WMR or one of the newer 17 mag rimfires? The .22 centerfires seem to have significant muzzleblast to me.
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Another thought would be the .204 Ruger or one of the various .20 caliber wildcats that preceeded it. Cooper builds rifles for several of them. The ballistics of a .20 caliber bullet, particularly one of the heavier ones, is surprisingly good. Check out the information available on the web site of the Woodchuck Den (I think it's http://www.woodchuckden.com. Todd Kindler will be happy to talk with you at length about .20s, as he was instrumental in reviving the caliber.
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Some of these newer rounds are going away such as the 480 Ruger.To many new rounds show little real difference to the old ones except when reloading and most don't.I would take the 22-250 over the 223 because it can do more.One of my favorits out to two hundred yards on small stuff is the 22Hornet,very cheap to reload.The 25-06 is about right there with the 264 win and in a pinch with the right bullet could turn out the lights of anything walking.Companies go with the masses and the masses say cheap hence the 223 takeing over the 22-250,not cause its better or equal but dollars.JMHO
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Oh yes it does ole pintsize.
In civil rural places, a crack of a small bore screamer maybe too much in the dead of winter.
If not my Kimber, then my Cooper JSR in 17Hmr.
Last edited by Lowell Glenthorne; 09/08/08 04:22 PM.
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Unless you let those furrie things rot, the larger varmint rounds tend to make a mess outta the fur at ranges you guys can shoot.
I've long let these things run, but hunt squirrels 'n crows baked in a pie.
Remember, you had better eat that red fox, or do something with the pelt other than blast it to bits.
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Ok well I went shopping today. I ended up with what I think is a pretty nice "working gun". I bought a Howa 1500 Varminter. Thumbhole laminate stock, blued receiver and bull type barrel in .22-250. So tomorrow I get to set it up and then go whack a hog or two. I did some home work and the gun got good reviews both in the press and from owners. It's basically the same as a Weatherby Vanguard but with more toys. For your opinions?
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Much depends on how it shoots with quality ammo.  I was offered one of them .270 or '06 Vanguards in sealed box for $399. Very tempting and was going to take it until I realized I already have 3 rifles. The action of this gun is like a brick shithouse with nothing to break. PS. The only gun I owned on this action was kal. '06 Winchester Model 777. It shot very well with Federal 'Premium' ammo and it was pretty much nicest factory rifle to wear Winchester name. Truly impressive quality piece from lil' folks from far away. I traded that gem for Heym 'Classic Safari' in brutal kal. .375H&H. 
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