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eightbore #112866 09/15/08 04:00 PM
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Ryan,

As you know, for me "Complicated" is best, not a day goes by that I don't have more questions that need answers.

Bill,

Tell us about the Sedgley!


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.22 Hornet, also marked WCF, schnable, fresh red Pachmayr solid pad, wood was light and perfect, seemed redone but real nice. I would have had to do something with it to make it look right. It appeared new, also had a 2" Unertl on top. Don't ask me the price. If I ever see a Sedgley with that color wood that is factory, I'll be very disturbed. Nothing was wrong with the gun. I've never seen a 2" objective Unertl in ten power. However, it sure looked good on that rifle.

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This thread may not have a catchy title, but its purpose is to identify the posters' areas of interest. By the way, MP, lightning struck today, I burned some gas, and uncovered another unmarked Oberlies. Actually found three, but one is home safe.

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My main interest has been to collect and shoot civil war cartridge breech loaders, Maynards, Smiths, Sharps ect. Lately I've started to collect and shoot cartridge single shots ie. Highwalls, Sharps, Rolling Blocks, Stevens ect. I belong to the North-South Skirmish Association.(N-SSA) And,shoot mid-range BPCR. My biggest thrill is to be shooting a gun made in 1850's to the 1890's and shoot more accuratly at 100, 2oo, or even 300yds then most of the guys shooting their more modern bolt action hunting rifles.

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mr 8bore--the sedgley i saw was in va and had a lite color stock and also marked wcf but was 224 not 228. had 1917 bolt body in 1903 spring.nice rifle.came out of va. regards,ben

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Originally Posted By: eightbore
This thread may not have a catchy title, but its purpose is to identify the posters' areas of interest. By the way, MP, lightning struck today, I burned some gas, and uncovered another unmarked Oberlies. Actually found three, but one is home safe.


Congratulations! I've never have seen an John Oberlies for sale at the same time I had gun money. I've been looking for a 1903 or 1922, silver arrowhead (or acorn) and all.


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This has already turned out to be an informative forum. I look forward to its continued development.

After over half a century of shooting, collecting and occasional hunting, I have slimmed my interests down starting with custom Krags. These were a good choice as there are relatively few good ones, I live in a Manhattan apartment, and when a new gun comes in an old one has to go out. I am lucky enough to posess Townsend Whelen's Fred Adolph Krag built up on the action of the issue rifle he used on the Infantry Team and with which he was high shooter in the Army in 1903. It is held in trust for the Rifled Arms Historical Association together with several other Whelen rifles. I do have subordinate interests in custom Savage 99s and the occasional custom single shot plus a few British and European muzzle loading rifles, the oldest a fully functional wheelock dated 1589.

PS to Eightbore, I would guess John Oberlies must have made a Krag or Savage 99 along the way but I have never seen one. I recently sold off a HiWall of his under the impression it was a .38-55, it turned out to be a .405 WCF and I am trying to get it back.

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I know Michael, Terry and Mark and several others here, am delighted to have old friends and see new aquaintences in a forum that suits my notions of what fine guns are about.
I started gunsmithing school in 1975 (TSJC age 24) and have dedicated my career to creating, photographing and writing about fine firearms ever since. I began building bolt action rifles in school and progressed back to a Mauser sporter style circa 1900 and a Krag sporter, then a few single shots before taking a job with Green River Forge of Springfield, OR (1978) building muzzleloading guns & rifles. After leaving GRF (1980) I continued such in my own shop until about 1985 when I started to work on double shotguns and single shot cartridge rifles. Left M/L guns behind in the early 1990's specializing in sxs shotguns and single shot breechloaders. Much of this work is documented in my first two books (Fine Gunmaking: Double Shotguns, Custom Rifles in Black & White and in Three Centuries of Tradition).

That's what I do, along with writing the Fine Gunmaking column for Shooting Sportsman (since 1993) and the Custom Shop column in Sports Afield (about custom rifles since 2006). My gunmaking has never been prolific, (I've built a very few extra Deluxe lever rifles) and never will be. I like to shoot and hunt with custom rifles and have been creating modern hunting rifles along with the more historic types for the past decade or so.



To sum up the changes in my gunmaking interests; I reverted from bolt rifles all the way back to 17th century M/L guns, and have been working my way forward to Dakota and Hagn single shot hunting rifles. I will always be enamored with history and historic notions. I am current ly rstoring a circa 1910 Mauser sporter along with other custom projects. (And have aquired vintage Springfield and Krag sporters thanks to Michael's influence!)

It's great to see you all here and I hope his venue continues to be an inspiration for all of us.

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Mr. Petrov:

Please keep them coming. I'm getting the education of a lifetime and enjoying it immensely. Thanks ever so much for sharing what is clearly the effort of a lifetime's study and research.

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Mark, I apologize for not pursuing the purchase of the Oberlies Hiwall some time back. We had a little trouble getting together, thought we had agreed to continue the discussion at the Baltimore Show. Now I wish I had just had you ship it. Let me know if there is any way I can add it to my meager collection in the future. Bill Murphy

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