Good info, all.

I do understand that those who have had bad luck with guns made in Turkey have a bad taste about them.

However, I think you may feel differently when you see these. The internals are a pretty as the outside of the gun.

If this were a $10,000 gun, it would be easy to do everything.

At two grand, you are not going to have a sidelock. It is a nice trigger plate action, with good color case hardened receiver. Barrels of deep blue. Single trigger for now. No barrel selector. Non-automatic safety. Barrels of 26 and 28-inch length, for now. I suggested 27 and 29 inch barrels, but I'm strange that way.

Trigger pull on the pre-production guns is heavy, but they say they are aware of that, and will have it right when the guns hit the shelves.

Future gauges will be on gauge-specific frames. That is, a different frame for the .410, the 28, etc.

I also asked that they bring in some left-handed stocks and make them available for swap, even if it does take a modest charge. Without the option of a left-handed stock, I can't use it. I think the stock has a through-bolt, making bending the stock problematic. I discovered that on a J.P. Sauer boxlock.

What would you think of a waterfowling model? Heavier, 3-inch chambers in a 12-gauge? Barrels suitable for steel shot.

As for guns made "by Turkey" or Turkey beign an "enemy" of the U.S. . . . I don't know what to say. This is a gun made by an American company (S&W) in a plant it built overseas.

Now, if you think the market will pay $5,000 for the same gun, just to have it made in the U.S., that's an argument I would have a hard time accepting.

Just thinking out loud here, I own side-by-sides made in the U.S., Belgium, Japan, Germany, and Spain.

Which is or was an enemy of the U.S.?

Hey, it's a personal decision, and anyone's opinion is as valid as anyone else's.

The quality of the guns, however, is factual. I would invite anyone to look at these guns with a critical eye (understaning the price range). They should stand up to comparison with pretty much any $2,000 double I know of.

Have others had a chance to see/shoot the Kimber Valier? It's above $5,000, made in Turkey, and is a nice 7-pin sidelock.