doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Interesting article about Miroku

Winchester guns were made by Olin-Kodensha.

Later SKB guns were imported to the US by Mitsui, a Japanese conglomerate of which I had a Japanese friend who worked for Mitsui in Chicago.
I have personally handled at least one SKB sxs with Mitsui markings. It was equivalent to an SKB 150 with greater engraving coverage. -Dick

That is just not true! The only thing that a Parker Reproduction and a Winchester Model 23 have in common is two barrels and that they were made in the same Olin-Kodensha plant. There is nothing similar about their parts,
All these half truths and misinformation need to be stopped!

Don folks are now trying to figure out the history and makeing of the Japan guns .Years ago we had the same questions,half truths or misinformation ect about Lindner Daly guns.One must wonder if at times on some models going to some place companies did some outwork for other.One need only look at how easy it is done with Browning/Winchester today.What we need here are some facts from folks that have seen the production,export and import part of the Japan gun lines.

Heres is abit of true or false info on the net.
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Mirokusprings.html

I could care less about Lindner Dalys. That has nothing to do with the fact that there are no similarities in a Parker Repro and a Model 23.

Will,

From the wisner site:
"In the sixties, C. Daly guns were manufactured by the firm of B. C. Miroku in Tokyo, Japan." We have however seen some apparently early guns marked Kochi, Japan."

This is the registered address of Miroku with the Osaka Securities Exchange.
Miroku Firearms Mfg. Co.
537-1 Shinohara
Nangoku-shi, Kochi 783-0006
Japan
Tel: 81/8/8863/3310

Because a spring interchanges does not imply any thing about the maker of the gun, except they sourced the same supplier for the spring. An entire receiver, trigger group, etc is a different story.

Pete

"Because a spring interchanges does not imply any thing about the maker of the gun, except they sourced the same supplier for the spring. An entire receiver, trigger group, etc is a different story.

Pete"

Well stated, Pete. This is very likely the reason behind some or most of the confusion.

Jim you have alot of gun knowledge but lets take the 101. You say they were built by Olin Kodensha and I say correct Nikko. Olin bought into and up graded the Nikko Kodensha plant and they became one outfit. Unlike Miroku/Browning the Nikko company kept building guns under their name and Golden Eagle among others that were the same gun as the 101.

According to Fjestad's Blue Book, Nikko was a trade name used on guns made by the Kodensha Co. Nikko was not a manufacturer. Nikko is the name of the prefecture(district) in which Tochigi City is located. Kodensha Co. was in Tochigi City.
Fjestad's writeup is a page and a half of pretty good history on this subject.
It's well worth reading for anyone interested in the complicated and sometimes confusing history of these companies.
Look under Nikko Firearms. My Blue Book is the 28th edition.