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Never is probably a poor choice of words perhaps, but in the connotation I intended, it aptly characterizes what happens when you find a bargain. As Rosanna Rosannadanna said, "it's always something"...
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God bless America, long live the Republic.
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Fools are we. You know, I used to subscribe to Petersen's Hunting until I found out it was just one big infomercial from cover to cover. All of the hunting stories were the same; Gunwriter gets "invited" to go on a $4000.00 Western big game hunt with the P/R man of Winchester, Browning,Remington, etc.. The P/R man "just" happens to have four copies of the firms new .300 Gigamag. Just in case some one wants to try them. They all kill their animals, thank, in no small part to the gigamag. You thought you were reading a hunting article, but it ends up as just a sales pitch. The End. Now I like you Tom, please don't misunderstand, but it seems fishy that you sign up with your real name instead of some stupid psuedo-name, like Improved Modified, Sage Grouse, etc. Then happen to talk about some new S&W shotgun, (Oh by the way the S&W guy will be on my show tomorrow to answer any questions you might have.) Please no sales pitches here. Answer some guys question on an Ithica Flues, or better yet, add another thread to, Alkanet root-reddish stock tint. -Best regards and shoot straight. -IM

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Why doesn't the barrel marking read "Turkey" instead of "Springfield, MA"?

I'm so sick of seeing American names on foreign products.

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IM,
If I was in TomGresham's shoes (assuming he's being compensated for) helping S&W hump the new gun - This forum is a very good place to get a sanity check from the hardcore doublegun crowd. We have collectors, tinkers, shooters, the advanced and the newbies all in one spot for a quick marketing query. Marketing not sales...G Rosnak hit it on the head; that folks who's next gun is going to be a 40 year old Belgian made graded Super aren't going to be buyers of the Made in Huglu S&W.

Now if S&W built the new plant stateside - I bet he could sell 25 or 50 guns right here in a matter of weeks. I have an RBL on order pretty much because I wanted CSMC to be successful at building an affordable gun, and if S&W was building domestically I'd probabably get one for the same reason.

TomGresham,
I do want to see your name in the contributors list for doublegunshop.com - kick a 20 to Dave via paypal.

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Originally Posted By: Yeti
IM,

Now if S&W built the new plant stateside - I bet he could sell 25 or 50 guns right here in a matter of weeks.


It would take minutes.

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Yeti:

I most definitely am NOT being compensated by S&W to consult on this gun. I just am a gun junkie. Because I write about guns, have a radio show about guns, and host TV shows about guns, I sometimes get to see this stuff early, and I get to tell 'em what I think. Of course, they are free to ignore me, and most companies do. <grin>

Paypal? You gotta be kidding. Paypal has a decidedly anti-gun stance. I'd be happy to mail a check, though.

I just put more photos of the S&W shotguns (and some handguns) on http://www.guntalk.com.

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Geoff,
You are badly mistaken, and the people who imported the Siace you own broke Federal law, plain and simple. #479.102 of the National Firearms Act, Title 27, CFR chapter II is very clear on this. The model, caliber or gauge, importer, manufacturer, importers address, and, in the case of imported firearms, where the firearm was made, have to be engraved, cast, or stamped at least .003 of depth and in letters no less than 1/16 of size. It has to be placed conspicuously, and be on the frame, barrel or receiver.

I've imported guns for years, and if I could have left it off, I would have, plain and simple. Why anyone would think manufacturers would spend money to put the information there unless it was required under penalty of law is beyond me.
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It doesn't have be running right along the barrel does it? Cant it be under on the barrel flat or something where you don't see it whilst shooting?

(Also, I know that we have discussed this before, but if an individual imports a gun then they do not have to put all of those markings on it, that is one reason to bring a gun in yourself rather than going through an importer.)

Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Why anyone would think manufacturers would spend money to put the information there unless it was required under penalty of law is beyond me.


Obviously some manufacturers spend money on wording that is not required by law. The 28ga 870 that I have sitting right here reads
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WARNING-READ INSTRUCTION BOOK FOR SAFE OPERATION - FREE FROM
* * * * REMINGTON AMRS COMPANY, INC., ILION, N.Y. U.S.A. * * * *
on one side of the barrel. I am pretty sure that the law does not require that on the barrel since my Gold Label did not have all of that...

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Originally Posted By: erik meade
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IM,

Now if S&W built the new plant stateside - I bet he could sell 25 or 50 guns right here in a matter of weeks.


It would take minutes.


...they could be at 30,000 in a matter of days...

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If the street price is under $2K I think they will sell a few. Looks a bit like the Dakota Superlight

I love round bodied boxlocks

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