doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com OT: Gun writing gone bad?

I think that Bell did a wonder of good to the world of gun shooting/collecting. He brought the cream back up to the top. His articles influenced some of the most damascus hating collectors to seeing and believing that these old barrels ain't that bad. The other half of the equasion being the cartrige companies making the low pressure loads. The only problem now is that it is hard to get a good bargin on a nice twist or damascus gun anymore.

You have your co-ordinates wrong Timmy-Boy. Never been to Jamica, never plant ot go there. The two older 12 bore Parkers are AHE, not AAHE grades. One goes by irrevocable trust to my oldest grandson at age 21- the other goes, also by same means, to my about to be born grandson (our daughter had the sona-bouy thing, and the little guy does have the outside plumbing feature). That way, they can sell them if they wish, and use the funds for college- I'm a welder by trade, best pay was in Alyeska on the pipeline, if you didn't mind frostbite and $5.00 draft beers- so when my gals were ready for college (they wanted to be school teachers like their late mother was) I sold the Hammer Purdey 12 with the Whitworth barrels through JakeWays in Ohio, and used the funds to help them get through college. I plan to do the same with the grandsons- should a third one bless my life, then he will inherit the HE Fox-and a M12 28 gauge, to be as fair and equal as I can be to my "come-afters" in a world that is basically rather unfair. Good men died in combat in wars we have fought (Vietnam), (Korea) and now the Sandbox, innocent little children are molested and killed, and as Sonny and Cher once sang"The beat goes on". Only thing(s) I have, other than my older Harley, that might give them a "leg up" on a future that seems uncertain from where I see it-hard working people losing their retirement and savings to the corrupt financial markets where the CEO's have the Golden Parachutes-homes foreclosed, and sister Anne, don't you see the dust a risin'??

Run, is there an age stipulation on the IR trust? The reason that I say that is at the age of 21 the old barley pop starts flowing (possibly), things can get all out of wack for a while and it would be a heck of a note if your gun got sold for cents on the dollar. Not that your grandson is going to be a stinker, but we all go through phases, at least I did. I do admire what you're doing for your grandchildren.

Tim

Sherman Bell, (or anyone else) could ever influence my way of thinking toward the damascus barrels. They are dangerous. And there is no way to know or find out if they are dangerous. They could have fissures in them that are undetectable until they let go and hurt someone. And there is no way to test them to see what kind of shape they are in. In fact, testing them (proofing) can cause a weakness in them that wasn't there before they were tested. They are nice to look at and preserve for the beauty of their designs. But that is as far as I would want to go with them. And I'll leave the shooting to someone else. Too many safe guns out there to shoot.

Timothy S:
I of course don't know how RWTF set up his Trust but mine,which is set up for four grandchildren, stipulates that proceeds from the trust can only be used for education. This stipulation expires when they each reach 30 years of age and the proceeds then become unrestricted. At least my "hard" assets like firearms will still be around at that time but it's hard to say what will be left of stocks and other investments.
Jim

Jimbo, the hard assets when they're sold, and say it's by your grandchildren, will they have help selling these assets or will they be on their own? Do you have some steps laid out? I have one grandchild so far and I want to get all this stuff figured out good and early.

Take care,
Tim

Jimmy, I look at damascus the same way as I look at nuclear power plants. The chance of a meltdown (fracture) are infinitesimally low but when they burst they're catastrophic. I blithely load low pressure and go hunting.

He lit a match...... To check his tank...... That's why they call him..... Slinless Frank..... Burma Shave

Jimmy, if Damascus barrels that have passed nitro proof are dangerous, don't you suppose the British proof house--having tested thousands of them by now--would have figured that out? One reason countries have proof houses, and proof laws, is to try to keep shooters from hurting themselves. If all these guns pass proof--and, as you contend, some of them are weakened by the proof test itself--don't you suppose that a lot of them would be failing, at that those results would have gotten back to the proof house? And that the law would have been changed so that Damascus-barreled guns could not be shot, period? I mean, it's not like they have any shortage of gun laws in England!

Hey "Goombah" your consiglieri and mine must have gone to the same Law School- mine is exactly that way, with the per stirpes addendum, God forbid something untoward might occur, the remaining grandchildren would then share and share equally. The firearms will go through a "best of three bids" for % auction proceedure, no one of my grandsons (no matter the 'wild oats' factor) can handle the sale by himself-and a designated and bonded trust officer will handle the proceedure, when that time occurs. My granddaughters will also benefit, but not from my firearms, they will share the proceeds from the 3 D (dreadnought) Martin vintage acoustics I own and play. RWTF