No offense but, that's what I like about you guys. You don't like the Model 21 (or other guns) because it is too heavy, then when you buy these whippy little guns with their skimpy little forends (among other things), you complain (which is why I like a heavy gun) that it comes up through the bird. How did that song go? "Things that make you go hmmmmmm".................Denny Crane