Originally Posted By: GregSY
The executive's job is to make profit? Probably so, in today's world. The entire business world has been ruined by the computer industry and other high-flying firms who post 20%+ returns. People look at them and think EVERY industry must be growing at a brisk rate or it is a failure of some sort.

In truth, it is the executive's job to make a profit, but not at all costs. Making a 35% return today is great, but not when you sell the future of your company and country. I'd rather see S&W make 15% on an American made gun than 25% on a Turkey gun. Why? It's healthier for them in the long run and better for our country in the short, and long, run. Any jamoke can source a gun made offshore. An exec with guts would do it here.


Not sure where to start there...Of course it's the Exec's responsibility to make money.

...and there's no way they are making 25%, much less 35% and I'd be really surprised if after all is said and done that they are making 15%. With all the costs out of control here in the US (insurance. health care and labor to name a few) it'd be quite a bit less than that.

Originally Posted By: GregSY
Of course, who is going to make that happen? Not the government, that's for sure.


I sure as hell hope it's not the government. They are into way too much stuff now, the last thing we need is their fouled up thinking making a mess of private business. If you want an example of how well that works check out anything made behind the Iron Curtain before that went Tango Uniform.

Originally Posted By: GregSY
A S&W shotgun made in the US would really raise some eyebrows....a S&W shotgun made in Turkey is just another imported gun. Period. It's been that way for 100 years now.


Yup. Been a lot of awfully nice guns imported in that time frame. I've owned a lot of 'em. Browning Superposeds and Citoris, Berettas, good Spanish, German, French, Belgian and English guns...and some junk too. Just like what was made here.

Originally Posted By: GregSY
S&W is hardly to blame for the sad state of US manufacturing, but they sure ain't helping it, either. They're just another pig at the trough.


What trough? If it's the one where you try to make the best product you can, and sell it customers that want it while making some money, you're right.

Last edited by Geoff Roznak; 11/26/06 11:05 PM.