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How many of you shoot modern ammo(high pressures) in damascus barrels frequently? If you know about the barrel dimensions it would be nice to have them mentioned. Just a frugal poll to prove nothing, but some anecdotal info.
Load: 2 3/4" round with 1 1/4 oz and 3 3/4 dr.eq.
Barrels: 2 3/4" chamber, thickness at chamber is .095", 9" from breech is .045" and thinnest is .025". Not nitro proofed.
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NO, The pressure is likely way to high and the recoil would be detrimental to the gun and the shooter. All of that shoot damascus use low pressure (7000psi) area and 2 3/4x1 oz type loads. You can kill everything that will need to shoot at with 1150 ft/sec 1 oz loads. Those 3 3/4x 1 1/4 are for unknowledgeable Bozos or for a Benelli.
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I agree, low brass, 2 1/2 dram equivalent, 1 oz. for 12ga. I shoot them all the time, no problem in any of my, 15 or so, sxs's with Damascus and twist tubes.
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I have been using Winchesters AA Lite powder and on Hodgdon's site you will find a few different loads using Rem hulls and Win AA hulls giving 970 fps and 5400-5700 psi using 1 oz and a few in 1 1/8 oz. I load these in 2 1/2", roll crimp, for a 1892 WW Greener and in 2 3/4" fold crimp for my L.C. Smiths. No felt recoil and they do just fine.
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Boy is this thread going to get interesting. I know guys that shoot whatever they want in their Damascus guns, with no regard to pressure or load weight. And others who won't even shoot clays with someone who is shooting a Damascus gun. Personally, I stay with low pressure loads, under 7500 PSI.
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Dave M.,
I know of the theory about the low pressure and damascus barrels and I know most of us follow that. I am just curious about how many of us don't. As you mentioned, I found many hunters that have their background in the older days that would shoot pretty much what they get their hands on through the damascus barrels.
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I stick with low pressure...geo
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I don't shoot twist or Damascus barrel guns. My Grandfather's 1890-vintage heavy 12-gauge PH-Grade twist barrel Parker Bros., and my Father's 1895-vintage 12-gauge Remington Model 1894 Damascus barrel AE-Grade have digested carloads of 3 3/4 dram equiv. and 1 1/4 ounce of shot Super-X or Federal Hi-Powers. Grandpa bought the Parker in 1901 and it lived on a farm where six boys were raised, all hunters, and it saw a lot of use. I'd be willing to bet that Dad was using Super-X or their equivalent in the Parker for these early season Ducks at King Lake, Minnesota, in 1932. Prior to getting his Model 1894, my Father had a Remingon Model 1900 KED-Grade. He gave it to his younger brother when he returned from WW-II. It finally suffered damage of the chokes being pounded out and breaking the solder holding the barrels together when my cousins used it during the early days of steel shot.
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I use low pressure 7/8ths oz.in my 16ga hamer gun. My Parker GH has a small crack in the right barrel five inches form the muzzle so I put some Briley full length 20ga. tubes in it. The guy I bought the Parker from was shooting low pressure shells in it and did not know about the crack.
Regards, Gordon
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