Rocketman,
Have you ever shot ZZ birds with that NID? I bet it would be a killer. The club I belong to has ZZ Birds avaliable one a month but it's on a saturday and it seems like there's always something else going on. Sunday is my day to shoot SC.

I too use a Grabber, wouldn't the steel rammer tube for a Grabber help seat the wad? Seems like I read that somewere before.

Derrick