I wasn't going to post any more on this, but thanks to JRH, I looked up some informaton that the "other" person could have done also, but in his knowing everything attitude figured he didn't need to do so.
The information I had was back then from one of the these three outdoor magazines, can't remember which one, Sports Afield, Outdoor Life or Field and Stream.

This says it all.
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=458&q=167114

Last edited by JDW; 12/18/08 11:42 AM.
David