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steven,how this rifle turn out.did you get the top coat on.what did you decide to use.linseed or benmatte.would love to see pictures.you do great work.


p.s. just as a joke.
how big is your head.do you ever get tired of everyone telling you how great you are.i bet you have a lot of friends.

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JD's warning about dust is not limited to animal products. My father was a jeweler and watchmaker, did some engraving and worked on fine wood inlays. He worked all his life with buffing compounds, small grinders and lathes. He died at age 63 of lung cancer. When his cancer was first diagnosed, the surgeons removed one lung. The pathologist's report said the lung tissues contained 2 kinds of buffing compound and 3 kinds of tiny metal fragments. Dad gave up smoking 20 years before the cancer was diagnosed. Those of you who are artisans, please take care.

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What happened to SDH and finishing this one?

Just for fun here is some pictures with a 2.1 mp camera, pictures are not good Quality

A new stock I happened to be finishing up at this time

Sealed with 8 soakings of Ship and Shore

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/GSP7/Im001403.jpg?t=1228595222[/img]

Wet sanded after Ship and Shore with Dalys Teak Oil 2 times to check grain fill, 320 and 400 grit, then wiped sludge cross grain. Then wet sanded with 600 and water back to wood. Then stained with some redish stain. Then it ha just 2 coats of Teak applyed with a 3/4" artist brush, let soak for 10-15 min and wiped with cloth. Ill do several more applications of Teal oil wiped
[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/GSP7/IM001410b.jpg?t=1228595751[/img]

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/GSP7/IM001413a.jpg?t=1228595850[/img]

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/GSP7/Im001416.jpg?t=1228595956[/img]

Sorry about the low MP pictures

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Update on ebony from Woodcraft: DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY!

After getting it stripped of the wax to look at the color, which includes a lot of brown streaking, I set it aside. I needed to put a grip cap of some sort on a (gasp) remington 1100 for a dear friend. Notice I said "dear" friend - otherwise I don't touch 'em. To go along with the brown streaks, it now has some nicely placed CRACKS in it after only a few days. Unless you don't need it right away and can let it sit around for a few months to cure out, avoid like the Plauge. I would have assumed that it would have been dry at the time of order. Woodcraft showed it being turned into short spindles. I would be less than happy with spindles that split after turning.

Apologies for the rant - I hope nobody has wasted money on them yet.

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bsteele, thanks for the ebony report, one of us getting second rate stuff is bad enough...sorry it was your burden!



So here is the stained and finished Hagn stock, pre-checkering. Top coats are boiled linseed as from Brownells, I find this finish very fragile and slow drying so I wipe with a rag damp with Japan Dryer between coats. This has been curing for about two weeks so it doesn't get scabbed up by handling too soon.

I'm pretty happy with it so far... but I've never been completely happy with any stock finish I've done.
There will be one more chance to work on the final finish when the oil is applied to the checkering. Will use the same oil diluted and colored with artist oil paint.
I plan on having this rifle at the Guild Show in Reno, so you'all that are there can see it in the flesh.



Still lots of work to do to have it ready, even in-the-white. I've got nearly 200 bench hours in the project, so far....starting with a very fine barreled action.
Best, Steve



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Looking good, Steve! Can't wait to see that baby in the flesh.

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Really really nice! I can spend twice as many hours and I would be happy if it was half as good.

Steve, is this rifle to be used a whole lot? I'm curious about the durability of a straight linseed oil finish as I have never actually seen one that I know of. Maybe some of my original English guns have that, but I really don't know.

But, would you put this on a go-to hunting rifle for all conditions or a used-hard target rifle?

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Speaking of staining where does the "Armory Red" color of Springfield rifle stocks come from? It's present on my 1868 Trapdoor, on Krags, '03s and Garands. On one site dedicated to the '03 posters say the rifles were stained in a vat of Logwood (Hematoxylin)before the dip in hot linseed oil. I haven't seen any official armory literature to support this, but my sources are very limited, and I wonder why they would bother. An article on the CMP site says the color comes from aging of the finish and all the various preservatives, oils, sweat, and solvents that end up on the stock. Anyone know for certain?

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Glad you like it!
Brent, it was sealed and filled with Daly's ProFin so it's pretty tough underneath. I've been listening to Michael experiences with linseed and they are impressive indeed. But no, this will probably not be hunted hard although I'm never sure what's going to happen with the guns and prefer to build them tough.
There is no question that I've always preferred the look of linseed, and the boiled stuff will harden quite well with some time.

Jerry, I don't know anything about military stuff.

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Thanks Steve.

I pester you with a gazzillion questions because I have a highwall under construction with Wyoming Armory and two Rigby style muzzleloaders. I will be doing the finish work on all three.

It will be a busy winter.

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