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If and I do mean if they make some modern brass for the Lovell that would be my choice. I've owned a couple over the years and they do a fine job.

Glenn I know you know my friend Michael, he is smiling because he's shooting his G&H .22-Hornet and not having any problems. I'm at the other bench with my G&H 22-Lovell and parting cases and getting a face full of gas. If they make some new brass I'll smile as well. Happy New Year!

If you're going to consider interwar wildcats the .219 Donaldson Wasp should be a candidate. That's a neat cartridge that was the hot bench rest and varmit cartridge of its day but a bit of a pain to make. I had a friend in my Battery at Ft Sill with a Cadet in .218 Mashburn made by Mr Mashburn that was a wonderful little rifle but really too "modern" for what you're considering. For pre WW I there is the .22 Savage High Power, .22 WCF, .25-20SS, .25-20 WCF. Most of the Wildcats I'm familiar with are post WW II. I'm curious to see what you decide.

Jerry Liles

Glenn,

I'm not sure what you have in mind (action type, barrel configuration, end use, etc.) but I'd think that the .220 Swift or the .225 Winchester would have to be considered as well, especially if the customer would like the option of factory ammunition (note: I'm assuming both are still available commercially).

If it were me, I'd probably go with one of the various .25's on a Krag case...

Greg

Gentlemens:

Thank you all for you help. It is much appreciated.

The gentleman is leaning towards the Hornet, but will entertain other betwixt the wars chamberings. This is an area that I am a bit fuzzy on so your input is most helpful. It must have been pretty heady times in the gun nut world with the new toy of high velocity to play with. I know there were lots of wildcats developed then.

On a slightly different subject, back when I was young and foolisher, before realizing the impiety of a cartridge without a rim, I had a serious hankering for a .222 Remington. Whilst looking at the available chamberings, domesticated and wildcat alike, I did not find a rimmed case with a similar volume to the .222. All were considerably larger or smaller.

Best to all,

Glenn

There is a rimmed version of the .222 in use in Australia. It's possible to make a short necked version by necking down the .357 Max. Also the .22 WCF is really just the first incarnation of the .22 Hornet for blackpowder introduced in the 1880s (I think). Just make yours in .22 Hornet, with a proper chamber, and stamp it .22WCF and you have your pre WW I varmit rifle.

Jerry Liles

I would mention that the .22WCF shoots a .228" diameter bullet.

How about a .218 bee but mark the barrel .22 Baby Niedner? They were nearly the same cartridge.

Or, maybe a .22 rimmed Lindal Chucker. I think the Lindal Chuckers were some of the best designed cartridges to come out of that era, but they never seemed to catch on. But, who wants to spend there winters forming brass.

John

Is there a simple way to obtain .222 Rimmed brass, headstamped that way? A friend has one or two .222 Rimmed rifles and I may end up with them some day.

Michael,

I know the .22 Hipower is .228 but I thought the .22 WCF was .223.

Eightbore,

As for the .222R I think the only source is Bertram Brass and they are proud of it.

Gasgunner

The .22 Baby Neidner sounds like fun.

Jerry Liles

Eightbore,

I will share my "stock" from about 30 years ago, I still have no rifle with this chamber. It is by Super Cartridge Co, Maribyrnong, Victoria (which may have become Bertram).

Box is marked "Super .222 Rim", headstamp is "Super 222". I have quite a few boxes.

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