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Has anyone ever heard of a MAS double barrel shotgun. A friend of mine has one and wants to sell it to me. It is a 12 gauge field grade model. Are they reliable?
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Welcome to the board. Hope you find a home here.
There is not much info on this maker other than he was French and worked in the early/middle 1800s.
Tell us more of this gun as it has to be other than what we usually see.
Best,
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John-
Good to hear from you. I hope you're doing well. Happy '09.
Take care.
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Welcome WB. It's good to have you here as we need more guys that own French guns on this board. The English stuff is becoming a bit loooong in the tusk by now. 
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You can find some more information here: Manufacture Nationale D’Armes, MAS St Etienne http://www.gournetusa.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=148&SearchTerms=masManufacture Nationale D’Armes was a state owned gun maker. They were primarily a military arms maker. There may be others along with more information. Pete
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Hello wburns and welcome,
MAS stands for "MANUFACTURE NATIONALE D'ARMES DE ST-ETIENNE" and the double
in question can surely be compared to a Robust, reliable and strong. They do honour
their name.
There are several French military arms manufacturers that use acronyms as trade
marks such as:
MAC - MANUFACTURE D'ARMES à CHATELLERAULT
MAT - MANUFACTURE D’ARMES DE TULLE
MAB - MANUFACTURE D’ARMES DE BAYONNE
MAP - MANUFACTURE D'ARMES DES PYRENEES
Some of them have produced guns for civilian use, of no-frills good quality.
JC
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It takes 2 3/4 inch shells, Mono Block, box lock, prince o wales grip, plain walnut wood, sling swivels, extractors. Blueings fair, and so is the case coloring. No engraving. Do you think it is worth 300.00
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Hell yes - if the gun is in good shape that is a great price.
I have owned a MAS - a really well built, good handling shotgun.
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postoak,
Can you find parts for them if later down the line I might need to make repairs?
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If I see a gun I like in good shape, I buy it and don't worry about repairs. For the record, I've had no need to repair a gun in more than 65 years of hard gunning---and never gave or threw one away. If you like the gun, buy it and enjoy it. It's an investment in pleasure you won't regret.
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NO, but guns for which spare parts are available is not what this board is all about. Are there parts for my trusty 1950 vintage Beretta 424? He  no. I read someplace that this is the only model SxS PB that Cole Gunsmithing will not service or repair. Do I give a .... He no.
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As for what this board was about I thought it was for finding out information on double barrels such as age, how common, value, etc. and for asking general questions. I did not realize it was offesive to anyone by asking if parts are available. I just did not want to make a bad purchase.
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Oh it's not offensive. Three hundred bucks is good price for French Keepers gun in very good mechanical order. I have yet to see basic French piece that's worse then current Remingtonsky or used Eastern Arms, Stevens 311,..... 
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wburns, don't worry about parts, if an old gun goes on the fritz, a good smith will get her up and running.
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wburns - no spare parts that I know off - any will have to be made. For the price - if the gun is in good order you can't go wrong, in my opinion.
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I believe there was a concerted effort after 1945, by the various state factories, to help resupplying France with hunting guns, since the German occupation had sequestered and stolen most.
I am presently looking at an MAC gun. Almost all of these MA-* shotguns seem to have been frugal, utilitarian, yet trust-inspiring boxlocks. Old faithfuls, as they are affectionately described today in France.
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French boxlocks are interesting. I picked up this one 20 yrs ago for next to nothing, the bottom third of the stock was broken off. I patched it with the bottom third of an old ruined Rem 721 stock and it has been a faithful crappy day waterfowl shotgun. Last year Robust. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/922/A1jnMK.jpg)
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Man this thread has some old familiar names......all of whom are missed.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Just acquired another French 16/65 boxlock, a truly crisp MAC in very good condition.
I may have overpaid with 68 €uros though, LOL, but the French charm, you know... 😜🥳
Am now travelling home back in train. No French sparkling there to welcome her, alas...
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