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The one Lefever & Ellis I have seen was as you described 8-bore. There is also one pictured on page 18 of Elliot's last book. These are muzzle-loader guns.
May not have been clear on my previous post but when I said I agreed with you on the Lefever/Dangerfield design was speaking of the SxS breech loader OWD was asking about, not the O/U Lefever & Ellis. So far have seen no evidence that either Lefever or Ellis had worked with breech loaders till after they seperated ca 1867.
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I believe I have seen this gun. The one I saw had all english proofs and markings. My thought, imported and sold by Ellis.
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There was an Ellis 12ga sxs at the Rochester NY gun show last weekend. Same gun?
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Not too long ago, either on this site or the Lefever site, an unmarked push lever hammer gun in very well preserved condition was discussed. I can't find the thread where it was discussed. Anyone remember? I looked at the gun at an Allentown show and foolishly did not take it home.
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The one at Rochester was missing a hammer, the other fell off when the gun was picked up. Overall brown gun and very worn condition. Top tang push lever release.
IIRC, a bar-in-wood action with a brass(?) reinforcement accross the bottom area of the stock at the hinge. A small amount of scroll on the lock plates, perhaps a dog engraved but I'm not sure of that. The price thrown out there was in the $1500/1600 range. Ellis name was engraved on the rib.
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Kutter-
I think that's the gun. The guy who contacted me about it was from NYS.
The internet is amazing, btw.
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Mr Murphy
The one you remember was(IMHO) an import but was cased in an American Case
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OWD,
Did you ever make a connection on this Ellis or Ellis & Lefever, which ever it is?
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