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Ed-great stuff here- There's an old Blues song- "Keep On Truckin', Mama" (use same chord frame as Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant" if you like- just don't order the toasted white bread and the two friend chickens with a Coke) I would re-phrase to : Keep On Digressin' Big Ed, because as you get going, you Sir are indeed a FountainHead of Parker knowledge. Wow.

I don't use either 12 AHE because: they are for my two grandsons' future after I am gone, they are way heavy and long barreled, and both guns were ordered for live pigeons- choked tighter than the hinges of Hell itself. If you want a using Parker, buy a 12 Trojan 30" M&F (very commonly found) and have it rechoked for your shooting style: flushing dog, pointing dog, no dog-- Would you take a valuable unaltered high grade ejector double, whether Fox, Ithaca, LeFever or Parker and have briley chokes installed? Why not a release trigger and possibly a Morgan adjustable pad. Why not a set of fuzzy dice hanging from a bungee cord anchored to a sling swivel stud soldered to the under rib _ as the Kraut drillings seem to feature- and the list goes on.

I have all the records I need, as over a few years time-long time ago now, before the Larry Bear Parker book came out- I had a trusted friend take them, one at a time, to Mr. DelGrego in upstate NY-and his letter(s) document the aprox time they were made in Meriden. Why spend today's money on the "wild goose chase" the PGCA lads have pursued, and more credit to all of them for their devotion- and still not be 100% sure. All those older records were apparently hand written- does anyone recall the "hanging chads" in Florida that got Bushy POTUS instead of Uncle Al?? Coal dusty hang tags, old hand ledger records that make me think of Bobby Boy Crachitt and his Big Boss Man, Ebby Scrooge- a shiny-***ed clerk at a desk on a tall stool writing by hand the day's tally of completed guns- sounds like Dickens to me.

I sold a "butched-up" 12 ga. Trojan to a friend last year- some idiot had written his full name on the bottom of the receiver with an electro=etching pen' "Archibald Stanley Hollbrooke III" or something like that- Tommy ONLY buys (and keeps- doesn't resell) Trojan Parkers (he has about 18 right now) because, as he so wisely said "They can't counterfeit a Trojan to a BH or whatever, due to the difference in the shape of the frame"!!

On his death bed, actor Orson Welles was rumored to have said "Keep Ted Turner and his ***-%%%^^^ watercolors away from my movies". Wonder if same scenario, the last Parker man in the family might have said "And keep that &*&-$%$#@# Auggie Pachmayer from 'counterfeiting" my shotguns". Just wondering!!

After buying a few Parker hammer guns and then joining the PGCA I met Mr. Murphy at the Southern. I can only say that he is a gentleman. He probably doesn't remember me [ we talked a couple of times in the tent by the 5-stand ]. Quite the nice fellow, and I find it distasteful for people to talk unpleasant about someone else. If some of you can't talk nice about each other, please don't say anything. Paul Harm

Run With The Fox...........i give up! I can't understand a thing your throwing out! Is it just me?

Hey there Blade Smyth- You find one printed word that is directed at Bill Murphy that you can prove in a court of law that I actually posted here- that's called libel- not slander-and I'll kiss your sorry ass in Macy's window at 1530 hours this coming Feb 14th- If you took the time to read one of my earlier posts on this thread, you will see that I called for a 'spirit of co-operation" in light of the new Administration at DisneyLand on the Potomac- instead of sniping at each other, we need to heal wounds and band together- sure, the Jimmie Zumbo-Dumbo'd "EBR's" will be their first target, but later, Katie bar the door- I have never met Bill Murphy (believe he and Linda live in Maryland) and most likely never will, but from all his posts I read here I will say that both he and Ed Mulderlak have the most knowledge (40 years "Time In Grade" for BM- not too shabby indeed on Parkers)and EDM with all his years practicing law and his great attention to detail. Where BM and I "got at loggerheads" was his calling out for me to share the serial numbers of the two heavy old long barreled AHE 12 bores I inherited from my Grandfather Sean over 30 years ago. As I am NOT a Parker: Collector or really Shooter- (I love my Model 12's and shoot them quite well, thank you), and they are NOT for sale or public display) and I am aware (from a BATF "connected" friend) that sharks and sharpies patrol these websites- I chose not to do this, and still maintain that position. I may have felt that BM was making the near fatal mistake of "calling me a liar"- why would I pretend to own two (or two hundred?) Parkers, what would that sham gain me. You can join the PGCA without owning a Parker I believe, just send a valid check- I chose not to, as Mr. DelGrego authenticated for insurance purposes those guns years ago- they are "Safe Queens" and that is my call. I may have mis-understood BM and his interest in Parkers as being intruding into my private business, if I had it to do over, I never would have mentioned them. I do have a "user" a VH 12 30" M&F field gun-I'll give you the sn on that 225318- as we are talking about a $2000 gun, not a $20,000. I don't go to gun shows, or the clays shoots that the PGCA folks apparently do, and I won't apologize for my lack of higher education or penmanship here- but I want a better life and education (I'm a retired welder) for my two grandsons, that's why the Parkers are their "401-k's" and will be until Hell freezes over.

Nope "Battle"- I'm a hard-headed Irish alkie-trying the 12 steppies- but as I have never smoked, and those damn AA meetings still allow the inmates to suck up "lung busters" with their coffee- it's tough. Sometimes what I think and what my banged up digits hit on this midget typewriter computer thingy don't mess- Now, you give me a 12 ga. M12 and some reloads and barn pigeons, or a stick of 5/16" Lincoln LH-70 and a open vertical fillet on some 1/2" plate steel-and I'll show you some good stuff- writin' ain't my "thang" and I know it- so what.. Dave Weber is what counts here, if he can read it and decides to allow it, that's good enough for me (and Bobby McGee)!!