Hey there Blade Smyth- You find one printed word that is directed at Bill Murphy that you can prove in a court of law that I actually posted here- that's called libel- not slander-and I'll kiss your sorry ass in Macy's window at 1530 hours this coming Feb 14th- If you took the time to read one of my earlier posts on this thread, you will see that I called for a 'spirit of co-operation" in light of the new Administration at DisneyLand on the Potomac- instead of sniping at each other, we need to heal wounds and band together- sure, the Jimmie Zumbo-Dumbo'd "EBR's" will be their first target, but later, Katie bar the door- I have never met Bill Murphy (believe he and Linda live in Maryland) and most likely never will, but from all his posts I read here I will say that both he and Ed Mulderlak have the most knowledge (40 years "Time In Grade" for BM- not too shabby indeed on Parkers)and EDM with all his years practicing law and his great attention to detail. Where BM and I "got at loggerheads" was his calling out for me to share the serial numbers of the two heavy old long barreled AHE 12 bores I inherited from my Grandfather Sean over 30 years ago. As I am NOT a Parker: Collector or really Shooter- (I love my Model 12's and shoot them quite well, thank you), and they are NOT for sale or public display) and I am aware (from a BATF "connected" friend) that sharks and sharpies patrol these websites- I chose not to do this, and still maintain that position. I may have felt that BM was making the near fatal mistake of "calling me a liar"- why would I pretend to own two (or two hundred?) Parkers, what would that sham gain me. You can join the PGCA without owning a Parker I believe, just send a valid check- I chose not to, as Mr. DelGrego authenticated for insurance purposes those guns years ago- they are "Safe Queens" and that is my call. I may have mis-understood BM and his interest in Parkers as being intruding into my private business, if I had it to do over, I never would have mentioned them. I do have a "user" a VH 12 30" M&F field gun-I'll give you the sn on that 225318- as we are talking about a $2000 gun, not a $20,000. I don't go to gun shows, or the clays shoots that the PGCA folks apparently do, and I won't apologize for my lack of higher education or penmanship here- but I want a better life and education (I'm a retired welder) for my two grandsons, that's why the Parkers are their "401-k's" and will be until Hell freezes over.