Mal, I think what you're saying is that people who think a Beesley is a $30,000 gun, thinking it is identical to a Beesley style Purdey, may be deluding themselves. But you are also saying that a good Beesley, although not neccesarily a "Beesley style Purdey action" is a good gun. Now how do we tell whether a Beesley is really a Beesley? By the way, you were the "one" I was referring to.