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With Parkers, your buying the condition and not the gun - like women do in teapot collecting! There are guns made for the field and there are guns for the chatrooms eh GregSY!

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In the obit of a book collector, he was quoted as saying his collecting was a "benign form of insanity".

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Part of collecting older Colts (I have three SA Army .45 and a C&B .36 1851 Navy) comes from our spirit of freedom and the wilder Western era- and also, just as our Bill of Rights-the old saying "God didn't create men equal-but Samuel Colt sure as hell did.

Friend of mine, had his younger daughter along on fishing/picnic on a nice private stretch of a good trout river-as there were Black Bears around, he packed his .44 Smith and Wesson Triple Lock revolver-just "in case" along with some pepper spray. They were having a sandwich and a soda,when a canoe with two very drunken and rowdy "bikers" came around the bend, spotted them, and decided to "crash the party"-- The first scumbag just got out of the canoe as Al pulled out the S&W from under his fishing vest and the scumbag bellowed out loud- "Hey *&^hole, two of us, only one of you, whatcha gonna do now".

Al just pointed the S&W at the big gut, cocked back the hammer and said, in a very soft voice "Actually, Mister, there are 6 of me now". Apparently the scumbag had a change of heart, turned tail and hauled bass down stream. Without that cannon, who knows?? Reminds me of what the late Bob Brister recalled in his book "Moss, Mallards and Mules"-- Big Abner said- "Man carryin' a big pistol most likely not always gonna have to use it-just showin' it do the trick"__

I agree, Colts and older lever Winchesters are overpriced, and the scandal caused by Richard Wilson has tainted the Colt collecting Gruppen- Have you ever seen the way the Luger collectors operate- make the double gun lads seem like "chump change"

Word I hear "on the street" is the BATF is already meeting to tighten the "gun show loophole" for a NICS and 4473 on every gun sold or traded- even if I lived next door to Dean Roming in Andover and wanted to buy a double he was selling, they want that recorded too. And all the vintage shootfests are also going to be "invaded" with undercover BATF laddies- Be advised.. Yes sireee--

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What was that highwayman/shootist's turned sheriff then back again name??? William Brown or something, right before the townspeople found out about his underhanded dealings and decided to hang him, he told his wife, "Sell all, my saddle, horse and other trappings but I wouldn't sell that Winchester if I were you" Even back then I guess there were collectors!!!

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I deal a lot with Colt & Winchesters, and I still don’t fully understand the prices.

I think the Cowboy Action Shooting craze dried up a lot of the old Colts & Winchesters, and then when the Winchester Factory in New Haven closed, prices really went nuts.

At the Cody show a couple of years ago, me and some of the high dollar collectors/dealers had a discussion about the extreme prices these things were bringing. My thoughts were that you looks at the tables, hundreds of Win 73, 76, 86, 92 and 94s… they aint that rare.

Go the auctions, many of these guns are going overseas, possibly for investment.

My thought that the prices were artificially inflated and the bottom would drop out… but that was two plus years ago, … guess I’m wrong.

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It's a common fallacy that people buy condition and not the gun when it comes to Parkers.

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That would explain the prices on all those Parker guns with 3 or more inches of drop, no?

Thorny, if you need a Colt, go get something useful AND cheap-the .357 Troopers, MKIIIs, and Metropolitans are still cheap, and beautifully finished. You can wipe down that nice, deep, Colt blue, and not feel too bad dropping the hammer on something that needs a .38 caliber hole in it.

Collecting is over-rated. Using, is useful. Except Parkers with the afore mentioned stupid stock dimensions. Quite useless, and too, too, many of them, with equally stupid pricing.
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When I saw the title, I thought this post was going to refer to the number of Lefevers currently offered on gunbroker for about twice what they should be going for, like this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=122218093

$1500 for an H Lefever 12b in average condition? Please.

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Everyone on the planet makes copies. Get a Ruger Buckaroo and a Uberti 1892 and be happy.

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I find a gun with 3" drop a pleasure to shoot. Same goes for 2" or 2-1/2".

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