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I just diassembled my 1902 J.P. Sauer hammergun, so I can try to have the broken wrist repaired. I was amazed at how perfect the machining is, especially where the front of the actual lock plates dropped into the receiver, I had never noticed how the plate dropped into the machined hole in the receiver, the work is that well done. This action seems tiny to me for a 16 gauge. Is it? It is the only one I've ever seen, so this might not be anything special to someone with more old Sauer experience. I took a few photo's to send to a friend. I will post them here if anyone cares to look. Excuse the quality, I just took them under a lamp, didn't go to any trouble.
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Very nice action. I noticed a possible slip with a sharp screwdriver(the bandaid and blood splattered fingers) be carful. How far are you from Uniontown. Rich
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Rich, Probably an hour or so. I am about 5 miles from Fort Ligonier. Screwdriver through the finger came from a frozen discharge line on a waste water pump. The screw head twisted right off, the screwdriver dug right in to my finger.
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I have one of those old Sauers, also 16X67 with 75 cm barrels. Mine weighs a bit less than 6 1/4 lbs. It is one of my very favorite shotguns. First time I took it hunting, every pheasant that flew died -- made dogs very happy -- find pheasant, point pheasant, retreive pheasant.
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Niclas, Same here. The slim english grip stock fits me perfectly. The open chokes over my pointing dogs work so well on pheasant, none has ever gotten away. Mine is under 6 pounds with twenty eight and 3/16ths" barrels. The best thing of all is the triggers. They break like glass at about 2.5 pounds. They area also twisted perfectly for a right handed shooter. I only use the RST 7/8ths ounce loads in my Sauer. What do you use in yours?
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RGS022,
Mine is a 16x9.3 cape gun, circa 1912, 6 3/4lbs and with almost identical engraving to yours. The answer to your question concerning receiver size is yes they are quite dainty in width but not length. As per "Lock, Stock and Barrel", hammerguns allow for a very narrow action bar. I have another 16ga. that is 5 1/2lbs and it is approximately .2" wider. Wonderful guns.
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Well, nice gun but I don't see a lot of machining.
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RGS022, Mine has a "open" pistol grip, not straight english grip, and has usual tight chokes in both barrels. On that first pheasant hunt with it I used some 1970s Fiocchi 16X65s with 28 grams (1,0 oz) of #6 lead alloy shot at 1300 fps in right barrel because they pattern more openly in all my 16s and Remington black game loads with 1,0 oz of #6 at 1220 fps in left barrel. These Remington 16 gauge loads have 67 mm hulls.
Only problem I had was that on longish shots -- roughly 40 yards -- #6 shot from those Remington loads did not penetrate deeply enough to give clean kills on going away shots, even with up to 10 pellets hitting bird. Pheasants dropped nicely but, were not dead. Next time I will use Cu-plated #5 lead alloy or #5 Bi-Sn alloy shot -- both penetrate deeply into vitals on going away mallards.
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Nice action!! Screwdriver through the finger came from a frozen discharge line on a waste water pump. The screw head twisted right off, the screwdriver dug right in to my finger. oooowwwwwww!!! I rip'd up my left shoulder last winter pulling a grinder pump - a lot of birds lived this fall as I was a slooooooow swinger........ Course, you had your gloves on ;)....... Gary
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Gary, I wish I had my gloves on. I also wish it had not been a pipe in my home. I ruptured 5 discs in my lower back in May. I only got out 2 short hunts this year. Unfortuneately, on the first trip, on the first point, the first rooster, the first shot, the stock on this gun broke in half at the wrist. My GSP brought the bird to hand, but I didn't really care right then.
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