doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com William Cashmore quality?

That is the first 16 bore I have seen that was marked 2 9/16" for the chamber length. How about you Smallbore as you see far more guns that I. The 1 ounce proof mark is for the standard 2 1/2" cartridge normally. I would refrain from using 2 3/4" ammo in it. With the barrel length and choke it is unlikely to be a pigeon gun as I first thought but it is certainly built on that style. Lovely gun. Lagopus.....

lagopus, consider that it is said to have been built for a lady. Is it not entirely possible that, as per the 20 bore pigeon discussion, she needed a smaller, lighter, easier swinging gun to shoot effectively? Like most of us, she may not have been a champion in the ring for money, but still enjoyed shooting.

I can't recall chamber length but I have seen several 16-bore pigeon guns, both hammer and hammerless.

While we think of pigeon guns as being long-barrelled, I remember a Westley Richards re-barrelled by William Ford with 24 3/4" steel barrels, tightly choked, 2 3/4" chambers, with a hump-back rib. It struck me that this may have been for pigeon competition, making a quikly moving gun but giving the impression of length in the sight picture.

However, it may just be that the customer fancied slde clips on this gun.

Sweet gun. I love my Cashmore and it is not half the gun that your's is. Regardless of value, I would guess that it will balance well and perform flawlessly.

Thanks for the pictures.
Brent

Why do people think this is a pigeon gun, or a gun made to shoot live pigeons?

Rocketman: the proof for the "smaller gun for a smaller pigeon shooter" idea seems pretty thin. Do we have any other evidence other than wild conjecture? I think it is far more likely that the no-safety, long bbled 20 gauges were made as duck guns. BTW: that DHE 20g with 34" bbls at Julia's weighs 8lbs - way to much gun for someone looking to scale down.

Smallbore, how did you know the 16g pigeon guns you saw were actually made for competitive live pigeon shooting? Did they letter that way? What features did they have?

Thanks

OWD

OWD, this gun seems to have several features common to pigeon guns. It is said to have been made for a lady. Yes, it could be a duck gun - - - or both! Duck and pigeon guns seem to share many common features and none are truly definitive or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Your turn.