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My first straight on skeet was with a cylinder bore F Grade Model 11, a mighty pretty gun. Stack did use a Model 11.

Ken

Yes, but, he didn't end with it. Third time I've been present when someone, or myself, noted that someone loved an A5 or clone and couldn't hit anything with it. Bent barrel, from day one, in one case, not sure of the other two. I couldn't get used to the barrel zipping back and forth at the shot, but, if your A5 doesn't go boom at the shot, YOU have something dinked up-mine worked for years with a broken extractor on one side, only fixed it because I thought I should. There nothing to adjust on an 1100, and nothing to oil. The A5 gets whatever the operator gives it and that isn't always good. The recoil is more problematic on an A5, and if you are going to shoot all day, an 1100 would be easier on your shoulder. That forend crack that appears on an A5 that has seen some use always bugged me. But, they still work.
I have been in a goose blind with three jammed 1100s at the same time-they are not miracle workers by any stretch of the imagination, and subject to crud getting in the works just like any gun. I owned both designs, and decided autoloaders aren't my cup of tea.
Browning doesn't build anything I would buy today. Remington is close to that point, but, the pump and autoloader .22s are quite good and will eat whatever you feed them, so, I can't say the same. But, I bought my copies already, and they aren't going to wear out any time soon.
Best,
Ted

I see some Citoris in the hands of Hunter/Guests here. No one seemed to have much trouble with them, FTF now and then. Except one fellow, 20 Bore, that had problems all the time. This is the same guy however, that backed into my corral gate and my Ford PU, on 2 different days.

Agree BinkMan- I'm not a clays shooter, nor do I own or care for either Over-Unders or semi-sutoloaders, whether made in the Land of Kawasaki or elsewhere. And to spend $1200 and change for a "Stuttgart Purdey- aka- Benelli" ain't my idea of a good gun purchase. No doubt the Remington 1100 with its way softer felt recoil replaced the venerable Model 12 and the Browning guns for serious clays men-But that old Browning reliability- the Browning M2 .50 Cal. MG- what a *&#@kickin' weapon- reliable, slower cyclical rate of fire than the Kraut Schmeisser and MG-42's that were called "Hitler's Zippers" in WW11-you can change barrels on a Ma Deuce and re-headspace, and be good to go- and John Moses Browning's 1911-A-1 in .45 ACP is the most copied pistol in the World,why- because they always work- like the Models 1897 and Model 12's--If I had the money and the taste for an O/U it would be a Beretta- McIntosh rates the world's older gunmaker (1620) as the best in his 1989 book, and for an autoloader- a Browning Gold gas operated model-

The other gents who said that most owners of Browning A-5's overlubed them and FUBARed the setting of the friction ring are correct-

b.c. miroku o/u is to gun what honda is to car. today me gettin' 20ga 28" 1/4-3/4 ejector with small forend wood. amazingly one can find there gems for 25-30% less if they don't have name browning on them. unlike newer citoris it has bushed firing pins for easy removal/replacement.