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Daryl,

32nd edition of Gun Digest, 1978

Here is the complete list of his articles:
22nd Edition Czechoslovakia -1968
23rd Edition Austria Hungary & Austria - 1969
24th Edition France - 1970
25th Edition Spain -1971
26th Edition Italy - 1972
27th Edition Hungary - 1973
28th Edition Russia - 1974
29th Edition Germany -1975
30th Edition Military - 1976
31st Edition England - 1977
32nd Edition Belgium - 1978
33rd Edition India -1979

Pete

Daryl:

I have copies of both Kennett's and Engelhardt's articles. If you'd like a copy, send me a PM with your address.

Rem

Thanks for all the help on the above gun. It was purchased and should be back out in the field before long. The only thing I didn't get a definitive answer on was the maker. Can anyone tell me with certainty if it was someone other than Janssen Freres?


Now I am trying to get some information on another Belgian gun. There are a couple of marks that I don't recognize from the list at Damascus-Barrels.com. The mark closest to the breech on each barrel looks like either a crown (or an early 20th century baseball glove without the thumb) over a "D". Both the barrel flats and water table have a "7" and also "FAUL". Is that last one the maker's mark?

The Crown over D is the mark of Delcour-Dupont. That only means they supplied the barrels.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20d/a%20delcour%20dupont%20gb.htm

Pete

410-70 = 2 3/4" chambered 410? Interesting. Wonder if that was something the Europeans did. Going back to my 1940 Shooters Bible, I can find several each 2 1/2" and 3" 410 loads, but no 2 3/4".

40X, thanks for your kind offer. I just checked my shelves and have all issues, except 33rd Edition of India.

Snipe Hunter, sometimes the maker of the various parts of these Belgian guns is stamped on the ejectors, seen after removing the wood. Britte was known to stamp here, but the gun could have been assembled and finished by others. Often, the actual maker is stamped [initials etc.] on the barrel flats.

"FAUL" is for Fabriques D'Armes Unies De Liege and it was part of the Hanquet folks lineage with Martin Hanquet as an ironmonger in the late 18th century, a conglomerate with the likes of Bertrand, Fresart, Pirlot, Simonis, etc., which I think began with "FAL" Fabriques D'Armes De Liege with Ancion as a partner. In the 1850s Colt visited Liege and apparently struck up a deal with FAL or FAUL to make his percussion revolvers. This partnership lasted well into the 20th century, if not later. In 1890 Colt patented it's "Rampant Colt" I think FAUL had a similar mark of a "Rampant Centaur". Browning approached FAUL but settled on FN for the manufacuture of its weaspons.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

During the 60's, a line of Belgian doubles made by FAUL was available in the States. They were called Centaures.

PeteM's above post reference notes F.A.U.L. and I didn't think to check Littlegun's site at first: http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...0liege%20gb.htm
The examples are the hammer and hammerless Centaure double. Also note the different proof dates and weights. Were the tubes possibly cut which reduced the weight?

Snipe Hunter: is "FAUL" stamped on the watertable?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Larry, I will give that information to the owner.



Raimey, yes it is. I told the owner yesterday that it is the maker's mark and what it stands for. There is no indication of maker or model on either the top of the barrels or the top rib.

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