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I have a nice No name Belgian SLE,all the nice touches..art'trigger , to the fences,bushed pins, lovely burl root stock , it has the same Andrews Toledo Sheffield bbls. I'd like to see more pics. Daryl has one also. I posted a thread to SDH..on the Toledo bbls not that long ago Franc, I knew I remembered that barrel maker... http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post137596Larry is correct about the pressure. I goofed and quoted the provisional proof pressure. Pete
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Larry, I think that the rampant lion over PV just means nitro proof. As far as I know it is the standard mark on all nitro proof guns; PV means Poudre Vivre. Superior nitro proof is either a crown over PV or PV in an oval with a crown above and a laurel wreath around the oval. If the laurel wreath is missing it would be standard proof. That gun will have been made when modern type 3" magnum ammo was not around. Lagopus.....
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Is there any JF in circle mark on the gun? If not, probably this gun made by another Belgian maker, by Lebeau-Courally even or Defourny-Sevrin etc. It's possible to find out about it by gun s/n.
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Geno, the sn is 37934. I don't see a JF on the gun based on any of the pictures. Would it be someplace other than the water table or barrel flats?
The weight I was given earlier has been corrected. According to the gunsmith it is 3 kg 700 grams. If I translated it correctly that comes out to 8 lbs, 2 1/2 oz. I am told it feels deceptively lighter than that. Also, the circumference through the wrist is a slightly larger 4 1/4". The barrels are 32".
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I can see 1754 on barrel tube just before flats also. There is Sebastian from France, he got his own gunshop in Paris, and he told me it was possible to find out more about Janssen guns. Ufortunatly I got no his email now.
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Snipe-
Nice website - beautiful pictures, nice writing.
BTW: if that Belgian sidelock is ever for sale, please let me know. I would like to find out more about it.
Thanks
OWD hfn_03570@yahoo.com
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Lagopus, according to the Kennett article on Belgian proof, the rampant lion over PV is indeed just an indicator of nitro proof. However, under the rules of 1924--and this is a post-1924 gun, by the proofmarks--the standard pressures were different depending on gauge and chamber length: 12,900 psi for standard 12 or 16ga; 14,700 psi for smaller gauges. But if chambers were longer than 2 3/4", then standard proof was 14,700 psi for the 12ga.
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Larry, what issue is Kennett's article in ? thanks
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