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I think SDH is right. It is not conceivable to have that screw where it is and not be engraved. It is an aftermarket screw set in to keep the rib extension in place , after it loosened. Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted By: Roy Hebbes
I was never able to turn up any reliable information on Gyot,s gunmaking business.My research failed to find any reference to Gyot in records published on the History of the London gun trade 1850-1920. I formed the opinion that the gun was made in Paris....

The address I have on him is a high rent district, 12 rue Ponthieu Paris, which I believe is in the 3rd Arrondissement. He did participate in the 1889 Paris exposition. He is mentioned in a 19th century Belgian book about patents by French gunmakers. Though I have no idea what patents he actually held. I can find no reference to his having an address in England, which many of the largest makers did have.

Another Guyot hammer gun:


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But I still can't figure that bead on the bottom?!?!

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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Why English??? Are the proof marks the one and only answer or could the barrels be 'proofed' in England and then sent back to France for assembly.


No. Illegal in the UK. In the UK in those days, tubes alone were provisionally proved before being used to build a gun, and were so marked (the mark that revdocdrew asked about above). Under British Proof law, only guns can be definitively proved, never just barrels, and the law requires both barrels AND action be marked after definitive proof. I tried to make this point in a previous thread about a Russian double that had marks on the flats that purported definitive London Proof, but was not marked on the water table, meaning that the barrels weren't original to the action, or the marks were spurious. That isn't the case with this Guyot, which has the correct marks on both barrels and action (note the crown over V "view" marks on the water table).

This gun was made long before the "Not English Make" mark came into use, so proof in London doesn't offer any evidence as to the origin of the gun. A foreign gun proved in London in those days would bear the same marks as one made in England. I think it more likely that this gun was made in France for an English customer, or was earmarked for sale in England by a retailer there. Clearly a quality gun.


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Beautful gun...I don't see it worth anything close to the asking price. Too much visible wear and the beads on up side down .....If I was looking to buy it I'd have to ask myself is that purty box worth 10 grand ?

Check out his Greener...looks suspect to me...as a real Greener.

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The barrels were photographed upside down! The bead is in the wider rib which is always the top rib.


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Yer kidding us.

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