Homer must have started this thread with " tongue in cheek ", just to get everyone going . Not having seen anyone tote the fine Remington name [ please , at least when it comes to doubles ], my 1889 or 1994 rate right up there with the best . Light , quick to point , double triggers , excellent workmanship , and they stay together. Jay , I enjoyed your reply until you got to Democrap - we must have a serious talk . Paul