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Rockie, the Ideals are good guns, but I think Granger might debate whether they're even the best FRENCH doubles.

Jim, it only takes on pellet, in the right place. Problem is, quite a few of those really long shots are the result of lucky, one pellet kills. For every pheasant killed at an honest 50 yards, let alone farther, I'd hate to guess how many fly off crippled and die later.

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Jim, it only takes on pellet, in the right place. Problem is, quite a few of those really long shots are the result of lucky, one pellet kills. For every pheasant killed at an honest 50 yards, let alone farther, I'd hate to guess how many fly off crippled and die later.

L. Brown:
I agree and to the best of my ability I've alway avoided taking risky shots. I think this is the only responsible way to hunt even if your using dogs for retrieval. Losing an obviously hit bird has always been a bummer in my hunting group.
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Though it's not good to have a bird fly off and die, it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. If a bird dies at 3PM, by 6PM it will be someone's dinner regardless.

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Greg, I've always considered myself a friend of wildlife. That being said, I'd rather provide dinner for myself than for the neighborhood fox or coyote. Besides, I wouldn't want them to ingest any lead from a crippled pheasant. Might be bad for them.

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if you like to read such stuff take a peek into 'the gun and it's development' by ww greener. one doen't have to look much further then folding sights to 300yrds. or so on one of those stupid english guns with last three inches of tubes rifled. max range for slug that looks like a mushroom is proly 150m and 20m with birdshot.

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