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Are the Winchester ones you've got the clear plastics or old paper? The clear plastic ones are the dogs dangles, best 8 gauge hulls I've ever seen.
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The clear plastic Winchesters are good, they take a roll crimp well......they do spit a basewad every now and then though.
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The Winchesters that I peel are papers, not quite modern, but industrial shells, not original shotshells. First I deprime the shell. I then use a machinist's saw to make a small diagonal cut at the top edge of the second layer. This cut allows a little point of brass to protrude. Do not cut into the main base of the shell. I grip this protruding point with a needle nose pliers and roll it onto the pliers until it is ripped to the rim area. Then everything falls away and you are left with a shell that will fit in a shotgun and takes a 209 size primer. I don't know whether the more recent empties are two layer or not.
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Eightbore, thanks for the tip. I will have a try at that. The Winchester empties that I have are all the clear plastic ones with a red stick on paper lable. I have hundreds of them but for some reason they do not fit the gun after going through the sizer but the Remingtons fit perfectly. Lagopus.....
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Do your clear plastic Winchesters have the separate extra layer of brass?
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Yes, they appear to. May have a go this afternoon. Lagopus.....
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Do you find the clear plastic and the paper casings better to use than the Remington Industrial black?
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The clear plastics are definitely better, I've heard of guys having the base wads break loose in the black Remingtons.
I've never seen any clear Winchesters with a double layer of brass. Your's must be older, that's interesting.
All the ones I have and have seen are a single piece brass where the extra metal is just raised a bit. They resize much easier than the Remingtons according to Armbrust.
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Where can you get the clear or paper hulls?
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Looking at them it may be that they are raised brass after all as I couldn't get anything to separate. Can't figure out why they won't fit when passed through the sizer but the Remingtons will. Lagopus.....
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