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William Cartwright #149411 05/28/09 03:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe OP Sidelock
OP HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	Anyone have any info on the English maker William Cartwright ?

Re: William Cartwright HomelessjOe #149427 05/28/09 05:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,403 Likes: 108 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,403 Likes: 108 Iowa	Ben's 4th son???

Re: William Cartwright HomelessjOe #149428 05/28/09 05:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,417 South Carolina George L. Sidelock
George L. Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,417 South Carolina	I believe that he was Hoss & Little Joe's grandad. Joe: I'm sorry, I was being factitious. Nigel Brown's book lists a William Cartwright Russell StBirmingham 1807-1811 and another, Henry, Rampant Horse Street, Norwich, Norfolk 1841-1858 and his son William s.a. 1863-69 c. 1878-c.1883. I hope that this helps. Best Regards, George To see my guns go to www.mylandco.com Select "SPORTING GUNS " My E-Mail palmettotreasure@aol.com

Re: William Cartwright George L. #149432 05/28/09 06:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe OP Sidelock
OP HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	I was hoping it was Ben's great granpappy. Thanks

Re: William Cartwright HomelessjOe #149437 05/28/09 07:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 328 PA Kevin Springman Sidelock
Kevin Springman Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 328 PA	He played for the Knicks when I was there for a short time. They called him Gentle Bill. He was a very nice guy. Don't know what his LOP was, but my guess was it had to be at least 17"+

Re: William Cartwright Kevin Springman #149439 05/28/09 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe OP Sidelock
OP HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	This is the Cartwright I was talking about....14 & 1/4" http://merzantique.com/item.php?id=3852_0_2_0 Ps...Don't bother calling about it.

Re: William Cartwright HomelessjOe #149444 05/28/09 07:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Henry Cartwright William Cartwright 13 Rampant Horse Street 7 Bedford Street Norwich,Norfolk 1841-1880 Henry Cartwright was apprenticed to Isaac Walker in 1805 and later became his foreman. He bought the business when Isaac Walker retired in 1841. Between 1859 and 1862 he retired or died and William Cartwright (nephew) traded at the same address until 1880. Edwin Wilson was employed as his foreman. William Cartwright sold the business in 1880 to Edwin Wilson who carried on the business until 1905. By 1905 the business may have been known as H Wilson (son? - guns bearing the name H Wilson have been seen), it was then sold to Charles S Rosson (by then Charles S Rosson & Son) of 4 Market Head, Derby. Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: William Cartwright PeteM #149483 05/28/09 10:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe OP Sidelock
OP HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	Thanks Pete..I hope I get to keep it.

Re: William Cartwright HomelessjOe #149509 05/29/09 08:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	There was an earlier William Cartwright. But he did not fit the time period of this gun. He was active circa 1800 - 1815, in time for the Napoleonic campaigns. The English gun industry thrived during this early period then went into a deep recession as Europe became more peaceful. If the dates I have above are correct, then the gun is easily dated to between 1859-1880. Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: William Cartwright PeteM #149510 05/29/09 08:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe OP Sidelock
OP HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	W. C. Scott's patent on the top lever narrows it down even further.

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