Hey Sweep, my hat's off to your "quiet" Dad. My Dad was much the same as yours, rather listen than talk. He died in '03 at 80 and I miss him a lot. He didn't hunt birds but, again like your Dad, he was one of the founding members of the deer camp I still keep running with friends and family. My Dad was from So. Greensburg, Pa. and my cousin has a small farm in Jefferson Ohio. People from that part of the country are the "salt" if you know what I mean.